Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: Unifying Division Doesn't Mean **** To Me, I'm Looking For Biggest Payday

[Willow The Wisp]

Usyk really got into Fury's head...because Fury is unable to get into his. It's the age old pathetic bully syndrome, love to dish it out, but cannot take it himself.
This fight will never happen because Fury has got himself in such a mental state about it his mind would be all over the place going into the ring, plagued by fear and self doubt and he'd be utterly humiliated in front of the world. No matter how much money is on the line I don't see him ever having the balls to fight Uysk. His entire fragile ego and mental well being would be at stake.

He will retire a coward.

Most informative post ever. I didn't know any of these facts. How did you? ....Tyson?

[-Kev-]

I respect that, I can’t even be mad. I’d do the same thing if I was a boxer lol. I’m hoping all of you would too unless you wanna be dumb.

[Willow The Wisp]

A man-who-beat-the-man-lineage going back to the ancient Greeks? What brand of crack are you smoking?

There is a 2000 year+ gap between the last of the ancient Greeks and John L Sullivan, the first champion of the Marquess of Queensbury era!

And remember, Lennox Lewis retired undefeated, so nobody who came after Lennox can possibly have a man-who-beat-the-man lineage dating back any further than Wlad Klitschko.

Those represent gaps in your knowledge, not mine.
All gaps resulting from a break in the line due to retirement, death, etc. Have answers. The fence was mended without a challenge. But you post rudely, challenge above your pay grade and seem uninterested in information that didn't come from your own head. So, you don't qualify for free lessons....unless you say please.

[Willow The Wisp]

I am not saying that I think Fury is afraid, I am saying he has been saying that he doesn't care about unifying the belts or facing other boxers but I don't see him dropping it so obviously he plans to retain it. When is his next mandatory challenge due?

I know. And I try not to put a lot of stock in what he says because it's pretty clear that he loves to play the media, and being the media, they always show up in packs to print his nonsense. He's no different than Eddie Hearn, Bob Arum, Dana White or any other promoter that way.

Unfortunately, found nowhere among the WBC rankings is Oleksandr Usyk or Zhilei Zhang. That's the problem with so many sanctioning bodies. But there are some good picks.

WBC RATINGS. SEPTEMBER 2023

1. Deontay Wilder. (Defeated x 2)
2. Anthony Joshua
3. Arslanbek Makhmudov
4. Frank Sanchez
5. Andy Ruiz
6. Jared Anderson
7. Efe Ajagba
8. Dillian Whyte. (Defeated)
9. Martin Bakole
10.Joseph Parker
11.Filip Hrgovic
12.Daniel Dubois
13.Agit Kabayel
14.Otto Wallin. (Defeated)
15.Bakhodir Jalolov


Don't look for things like consistency, logic and fairness always from the various Sanctioning bodies, what they used to call, "Alphabet banditos".

But they've had some good hits too.

Fury last fought at the end of 2022 when he completed his trilogy against Derek Chisora, with his last mandatory defence coming against Dillian Whyte in April 2022.


WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman has explained:

“Tyson Fury is the WBC heavyweight champion. He has been willing, able, and trying to fight Oleksandr Usyk, Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz Jr. He has no mandatory contenders, so he is going to do this special event in Saudi Arabia. The ‘Baddest Man on the Planet’ featuring the WBC heavyweight champion and the former UFC champion".

"He is not fighting Oleksandr Usyk because he was not ready last December. Then they couldn’t do it in March and then they went their separate ways. Anthony Joshua – the same thing, so don’t blame Tyson Fury. He has been there and been there ready,”

"The mandatory contender is a rule to provide opportunities to the best contender in the division, not to be talked by the champion. If you force the mandatory just for the sake of it, you are doing a disservice to the sport. We will not be rushing up a mandatory contender. We had ordered Wilder vs Ruiz and the winner would have been a sensational mandatory contender and that fight did not take place.
They are not participating in it so there is no mandatory contender".

"Fury is the best heavyweight without a doubt. We would like to see Fury vs Usyk so we will not interfere in the plans to have a major showdown for all the belts so there is no hurry to find a mandatory contender and we will see what happens at the WBC convention".

[kafkod]

Those represent gaps in your knowledge, not mine.
All gaps resulting from a break in the line due to retirement, death, etc. Have answers. The fence was mended without a challenge. But you post rudely, challenge above your pay grade and seem uninterested in information that didn't come from your own head. So, you don't qualify for free lessons....unless you say please.

"The man who beat the man" has a very specific meaning. That meaning should be self explanatory. But as you seem to be struggling with it, here's a free lesson for you: It doesn't mean - "the man whose name comes after another man's name on a list of names"

You're welcome!

[kafkod]

Unfortunately, found nowhere among the WBC rankings is Oleksandr Usyk or Zhilei Zhang. That's the problem with so many sanctioning bodies. But there are some good picks.

Here's another free lesson for you: The WBC don't rank fighters who hold titles with other sanctioning organisations. Usyk is the WBA champion and Zhang is the WBA interim champion, which is why they are not ranked by the WBC.

[siablo14]

I know. And I try not to put a lot of stock in what he says because it's pretty clear that he loves to play the media, and being the media, they always show up in packs to print his nonsense. He's no different than Eddie Hearn, Bob Arum, Dana White or any other promoter that way.

Unfortunately, found nowhere among the WBC rankings is Oleksandr Usyk or Zhilei Zhang. That's the problem with so many sanctioning bodies. But there are some good picks.

WBC RATINGS. SEPTEMBER 2023

1. Deontay Wilder. (Defeated x 2)
2. Anthony Joshua
3. Arslanbek Makhmudov
4. Frank Sanchez
5. Andy Ruiz
6. Jared Anderson
7. Efe Ajagba
8. Dillian Whyte. (Defeated)
9. Martin Bakole
10.Joseph Parker
11.Filip Hrgovic
12.Daniel Dubois
13.Agit Kabayel
14.Otto Wallin. (Defeated)
15.Bakhodir Jalolov


Don't look for things like consistency, logic and fairness always from the various Sanctioning bodies, what they used to call, "Alphabet banditos".
But they've has some good hits too.

Fury last fought at the end of 2022 when he completed his trilogy against Derek Chisora, with his last mandatory defence coming against Dillian Whyte in April 2022.


WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman has explained:

“Tyson Fury is the WBC heavyweight champion. He has been willing, able, and trying to fight Oleksandr Usyk, Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz Jr. He has no mandatory contenders, so he is going to do this special event in Saudi Arabia. The ‘Baddest Man on the Planet’ featuring the WBC heavyweight champion and the former UFC champion".

"He is not fighting Oleksandr Usyk because he was not ready last December. Then they couldn’t do it in March and then they went their separate ways. Anthony Joshua – the same thing, so don’t blame Tyson Fury. He has been there and been there ready,”

"The mandatory contender is a rule to provide opportunities to the best contender in the division, not to be talked by the champion. If you force the mandatory just for the sake of it, you are doing a disservice to the sport. We will not be rushing up a mandatory contender. We had ordered Wilder vs Ruiz and the winner would have been a sensational mandatory contender and that fight did not take place.
They are not participating in it so there is no mandatory contender".

"Fury is the best heavyweight without a doubt. We would like to see Fury vs Usyk so we will not interfere in the plans to have a major showdown for all the belts so there is no hurry to find a mandatory contender and we will see what happens at the WBC convention".

Thanks.
If Wilder and Ruiz don't want the #1 mandatory spot, the WBC should offer Sanchez and Makmudov the chance to fight for it, right?

[crimsonfalcon07]

The translation there is that the WBC will allow them to play ****** games. Why doesn't Fury have a fight with anyone? It's because he played ****** games and deliberately screwed all the negotiations with everyone. Why aren't Zhang or Usyk ranked? Because the WBC deliberately doesn't rank champions from the other organizations.

[billeau2]

True fighting man eh...

Bred that way!!! His daddy tole me.

[billeau2]

What a dossier... I feel bad for him. He will wake up when it is too late and realize how foolish he has been. Ray Robinson did not like to fight and did if for a lifetime... Fury for a sliver of time. People will not be so eager to pay for these matches once Fury is more divorced from boxing... Just a shame Fury cannot understand how his bread is buttered.