Wiil Usyk drop a belt to avoid Hrgovic?

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  • Smash
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    #81
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Exactly, it would never be accepted and they were very aware of that. Just like Fury’s 70-30. And that “acceptance” was bogus aswell.

    So they’re both playing games. Why isn’t Usyk under fire for that?
    because fury it looks like messed up saudi & then demanded 70% for the uk

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      #82
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      Ok you’ve just said a lot of nothing there.

      Breakdown how it’s all Fury’s fault and not Usyk’s.
      Usyk fights top guys after top guys and a mandatory and I'm talking about his whole career since winning a cruiserweight belt barring two guys to test the waters at heavyweight

      Fury has fought wlad and wilder and the rest were damaged goods or cherry picks

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        #83
        Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

        Usyk fights top guys after top guys and a mandatory and I'm talking about his whole career since winning a cruiserweight belt barring two guys to test the waters at heavyweight

        Fury has fought wlad and wilder and the rest were damaged goods or cherry picks
        Again just a whole lot of nothing that has nothing to do with these negotiations.

        This is your reasoning? Past events?

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          #84
          Originally posted by Smash

          because fury it looks like messed up saudi & then demanded 70% for the uk
          Messed up Saudi how?

          And even if he did, how does that change the fact Usyk played obvious games and media stunts multiple times during this negotiation?

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            #85
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            Messed up Saudi how?

            And even if he did, how does that change the fact Usyk played obvious games and media stunts multiple times during this negotiation?
            there was a thread here not long ago about that, im sure u can find it its not that old

            the end result as far as i could make out was that usyk had agreed a deal with the saudis but fury was unable to agree a deal with the saudis because his financial demands were too high, there was a quote from a saudi guy saying one of the guys (fury usky) was demanding more than the entire even was forecast to generate but usky had agreed his deal, so it wasnt hard to figure out who that guy was

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              #86
              Why would anyone duck Hrgovic?

              The guy is **** average.

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                #87


                This fight is a 50-50 split. There is no A-side or B-side, both men need each other equally and the fight itself is bigger than any one name.

                Usyk's side agreed their terms with the Saudis, Fury didn't. God only knows what kind of obscene figure you have to be demanding to price yourself out with the Saudis. There are many ways to turn down a fight and the easiest one is to price yourself out.

                Usyk's team have stood firm on 50-50 and rightfully so. When Fury wanted a larger split, they proposed 60-40 to the winner. Seems fair to me. Then when Fury got even more outlandish and demanded 70-30, Usyk accepted--on the condition that should he win, the rematch be a 70-30 split in his favour. Again, can't say fairer than that.

                Eddie Hearn believes that Tyson Fury’s purse split demands for the now-collapsed Oleksandr Usyk fight surprised even his promoter, Frank Warren. The talks for the undisputed heavyweight championship fight ended bitterly this week, with Usyk’s side pulling the plug after what they saw as ‘unacceptable’ demands. Talks were fraught with tension ever since the financial […]


                I'm not exactly sure what it is Usyk is supposed to be guilty of here. Not letting Fury mug him off? It seems abundantly clear to me that Usyk's side were operating in good faith and trying to actually make the fight, where as Fury was putting up one obstacle after the next.

                It's funny how when Fury's fights with Chisora and Ngannou got made, there wasn't a peep to be heard. No split demands, stipulations or ultimatums. Everything went through without a hitch. Weird...

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Dr. Z
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNTSVlMkz7Q

                  Wiil Usyk drop a belt to avoid Hrgovic?

                  I think he will.
                  After his last performance, he better.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by dannnnn
                    https://www.combatsportsuk.co.uk/fra...a-50-50-split/

                    This fight is a 50-50 split. There is no A-side or B-side, both men need each other equally and the fight itself is bigger than any one name.

                    Usyk's side agreed their terms with the Saudis, Fury didn't. God only knows what kind of obscene figure you have to be demanding to price yourself out with the Saudis. There are many ways to turn down a fight and the easiest one is to price yourself out.

                    Usyk's team have stood firm on 50-50 and rightfully so. When Fury wanted a larger split, they proposed 60-40 to the winner. Seems fair to me. Then when Fury got even more outlandish and demanded 70-30, Usyk accepted--on the condition that should he win, the rematch be a 70-30 split in his favour. Again, can't say fairer than that.

                    Eddie Hearn believes that Tyson Fury’s purse split demands for the now-collapsed Oleksandr Usyk fight surprised even his promoter, Frank Warren. The talks for the undisputed heavyweight championship fight ended bitterly this week, with Usyk’s side pulling the plug after what they saw as ‘unacceptable’ demands. Talks were fraught with tension ever since the financial […]


                    I'm not exactly sure what it is Usyk is supposed to be guilty of here. Not letting Fury mug him off? It seems abundantly clear to me that Usyk's side were operating in good faith and trying to actually make the fight, where as Fury was putting up one obstacle after the next.

                    It's funny how when Fury's fights with Chisora and Ngannou got made, there wasn't a peep to be heard. No split demands, stipulations or ultimatums. Everything went through without a hitch. Weird...

                    50-50 was for Saudi, not the UK. Usyk is never getting 50% in the UK nor should he.

                    60/40 to the winner seems fair to you? That is operating in good faith? You cannot be serious. How can that be seen as anything but an obstacle?


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                      #90
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza


                      50-50 was for Saudi, not the UK. Usyk is never getting 50% in the UK nor should he.

                      60/40 to the winner seems fair to you? That is operating in good faith? You cannot be serious. How can that be seen as anything but an obstacle?

                      The split should be 50-50 regardless of where the fight is held. Not every fight has an A-side. This isn't a Tyson Fury fight, it's a fight to crown the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and Usyk is every bit as important to the equation as Fury. Not to mention he holds three of the four belts. The only fair split is 50-50, whether in Saudi Arabia, Wembley Stadium or Timbuktu.

                      You agree it should have been a 50-50 split in Saudi, yet it's entirely Fury's fault the fight didn't happen there. So what, Usyk should be expected to take a 40% split of a much smaller pot all because of Fury being an arse? And if he doesn't then he is equally as culpable in not making the fight? Can't you see how ridiculous that is?

                      How is 60/40 to the winner not operating in good faith? It's a fair compromise to Fury demanding a larger percentage of the split. If he wins he gets it. Or what then, you think that anything less than Usyk bending over and accepting a 40% split (or worse) outright is him not operating in good faith to make the fight?

                      Bottom line, if Fury wanted this fight to happen it would have.​

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