Wiil Usyk drop a belt to avoid Hrgovic?

[Stuntman Mike]

I just told you I’m not even a Fury fan, you melt.

I just call it how I see it, and more than willing to have a dialogue on it unlike you who can’t.

I don’t even blame Usyk either. I blame both equally.

The blame is all on fury because he's a coward it's such an obvious observement,he's literally blatantly ducked big fights and fought tomato cans in between

Usyk at least fights his mandatories instead of guys hes already beaten twice years ago or ufc fighters

You need to open your eyes and ears

[Smash]

Put oneself in Usyk's position: Who would you rather face? and what amount of money would make it feasible to fight Fury?

thats an easy one, fury

usyk as far as i can see has already signed to face fury in saudi, he agreed his deal so he wants to fight fury, fury didnt agree his deal

fury demanded 70% for the uk deal, which is a bad deal for usyk, deal falls apart in the end, greedybelly is created

[Smash]

I think Warren did say it. Krasuk basically said it, or implied it. And I’m pretty sure Warren said it.

if u say warren said we offered usyk 40% for the fight u will have to back that one up im afraid

krasuk in my eyes was talking about what he and usyk wanted, i dont see your implication there

[billeau2]

thats an easy one, fury

usyk as far as i can see has already signed to face fury in saudi, he agreed his deal so he wants to fight fury, fury didnt agree his deal

fury demanded 70% for the uk deal, which is a bad deal for usyk, deal falls apart in the end, greedybelly is created

I think if the money is right, then that ultimately determines who Usyk, or anyone would fight. But one has to consider that to Usyk, the stiff croat is an easier fight, however one wants to describe the situation. And all the contracts, etc do not matter a thing, it comes down to the very simple proposition that with enough money any fighter will take the fight.

Do you, or anyone outside the parties negotiating really know who demanded what? I doubt it... Again, instead of rumor and inuendo, common sense can save the day: If the money is right the fight happens.

It does seem Fury has not made a real effort to defend the crown, and is looking for an easy way, not a challenge... For whatever that is worth.

[IronDanHamza]

The blame is all on fury because he's a coward it's such an obvious observement,he's literally blatantly ducked big fights and fought tomato cans in between

Usyk at least fights his mandatories instead of guys hes already beaten twice years ago or ufc fighters

You need to open your eyes and ears

How though?

I understand that’s the narrative and people are running with it but how do you come to that conclusion?

[IronDanHamza]

if u say warren said we offered usyk 40% for the fight u will have to back that one up im afraid

krasuk in my eyes was talking about what he and usyk wanted, i dont see your implication there

Krasuk said we want 50-50, Fury wants more, but we accept 60-40, as long as the winner gets 60.

How do you not see the implication there?

[Stuntman Mike]

How though?

I understand thatâs the narrative and people are running with it but how do you come to that conclusion?

Because of furys behavior as a hardcore boxing fan he's an absolute let down and usyk has done nothing but what he's supposed to do,it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's going on.

[IronDanHamza]

Because of furys behavior as a hardcore boxing fan he's an absolute let down and usyk has done nothing but what he's supposed to do,it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's going on.

Ok you’ve just said a lot of nothing there.

Breakdown how it’s all Fury’s fault and not Usyk’s.

[billeau2]

The blame is all on fury because he's a coward it's such an obvious observement,he's literally blatantly ducked big fights and fought tomato cans in between

Usyk at least fights his mandatories instead of guys hes already beaten twice years ago or ufc fighters

You need to open your eyes and ears

Fury took a carnival fight. But is there really anyone to "blame?" Promoters like Satanic Bob are telling fighters to wait out big fights, The Saudis throw crazy money at fighters... the whole sport is compromised. Fury is no help, but Usyk has to know that his fight with Fury has to be carefully negotiated... And Fury is being mentored by a promoter who destroys big fights. Make of the situation what you will, I do think Fury is wrong, but I do not think Usyk is innocent here.

[IronDanHamza]

Fury took a carnival fight. But is there really anyone to "blame?" Promoters like Satanic Bob are telling fighters to wait out big fights, The Saudis throw crazy money at fighters... the whole sport is compromised. Fury is no help, but Usyk has to know that his fight with Fury has to be carefully negotiated... And Fury is being mentored by a promoter who destroys big fights. Make of the situation what you will, I do think Fury is wrong, but I do not think Usyk is innocent here.

I think that’s put perfectly.

But no one seems to want to acknowledge Usyk’s obvious games and bogus offers. Only Fury’s.