Wiil Usyk drop a belt to avoid Hrgovic?

[Stuntman Mike]

The split should be 50-50 regardless of where the fight is held. Not every fight has an A-side. This isn't a Tyson Fury fight, it's a fight to crown the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and Usyk is every bit as important to the equation as Fury. Not to mention he holds three of the four belts. The only fair split is 50-50, whether in Saudi Arabia, Wembley Stadium or Timbuktu.

You agree it should have been a 50-50 split in Saudi, yet it's entirely Fury's fault the fight didn't happen there. So what, Usyk should be expected to take a 40% split of a much smaller pot all because of Fury being an arse? And if he doesn't then he is equally as culpable in not making the fight? Can't you see how ridiculous that is?

How is 60/40 to the winner not operating in good faith? It's a fair compromise to Fury demanding a larger percentage of the split. If he wins he gets it. Or what then, you think that anything less than Usyk bending over and accepting a 40% split (or worse) outright is him not operating in good faith to make the fight?

Bottom line, if Fury wanted this fight to happen it would have.

This doesn't fit his agenda there's no point in reasoning with him

[-Kev-]

Usyk has never ducked anyone, but almost every fighter in history forgoes another fighter that fans want him to fight for various reasons. In Usyk’s situation, if he did that, it’s like because he’s 37 and doesn’t feel up for a young fighter and instead wants a much bigger fight to retire on. Which I have no issues with if thinking from a logical standpoint. Thinking as a fan though, i’d like that fight.

[QueensburyRules]

The split should be 50-50 regardless of where the fight is held. Not every fight has an A-side. This isn't a Tyson Fury fight, it's a fight to crown the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and Usyk is every bit as important to the equation as Fury. Not to mention he holds three of the four belts. The only fair split is 50-50, whether in Saudi Arabia, Wembley Stadium or Timbuktu.

You agree it should have been a 50-50 split in Saudi, yet it's entirely Fury's fault the fight didn't happen there. So what, Usyk should be expected to take a 40% split of a much smaller pot all because of Fury being an arse? And if he doesn't then he is equally as culpable in not making the fight? Can't you see how ridiculous that is?

How is 60/40 to the winner not operating in good faith? It's a fair compromise to Fury demanding a larger percentage of the split. If he wins he gets it. Or what then, you think that anything less than Usyk bending over and accepting a 40% split (or worse) outright is him not operating in good faith to make the fight?

Bottom line, if Fury wanted this fight to happen it would have.

- - 70/30 Usyk who brings the $$$ and fans.

Blubber brokeback promoter too many x bankrupt.

[IronDanHamza]

The split should be 50-50 regardless of where the fight is held. Not every fight has an A-side. This isn't a Tyson Fury fight, it's a fight to crown the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and Usyk is every bit as important to the equation as Fury. Not to mention he holds three of the four belts. The only fair split is 50-50, whether in Saudi Arabia, Wembley Stadium or Timbuktu.

You agree it should have been a 50-50 split in Saudi, yet it's entirely Fury's fault the fight didn't happen there. So what, Usyk should be expected to take a 40% split of a much smaller pot all because of Fury being an arse? And if he doesn't then he is equally as culpable in not making the fight? Can't you see how ridiculous that is?

How is 60/40 to the winner not operating in good faith? It's a fair compromise to Fury demanding a larger percentage of the split. If he wins he gets it. Or what then, you think that anything less than Usyk bending over and accepting a 40% split (or worse) outright is him not operating in good faith to make the fight?

Bottom line, if Fury wanted this fight to happen it would have.

It’s only 50-50 in Saudi because of the obscene money they are willing to offer them.

If they are going off a pot of revenue like they would in the UK then obviously it’s not 50-50’as Fury is the way bigger draw. How is that even an argument? That’s not how Boxing works. The bigger draw gets the bigger split. Very simple.

You are actually asking me how 60-40 to the winner is not operating in good faith? What is this bizarro world? We KNOW that no boxer is ever going to accept that kind of offer and it’s very transparently not a real offer. The fact you’re trying to pass it off as a legitimate offer and operating in good faith just shows why this narrative is being pushed in regards to Usyk. He can play all the silly games he wants it’s just brushed off as fine despite the fact that is very obviously not a serious offer that they knew full well wasn’t even going to be considered and anyone with a working brain can see that aswell.

To the last point, not really. Usyk clearly didn’t want it in the UK so whether Fury wanted it or not makes no difference. Reality is neither did and they wanted to play their little games of media one-up man ship while they wait our Saudi, and by your comments one that Usyk won.

[IronDanHamza]

This doesn't fit his agenda there's no point in reasoning with him

Mate can you read or are you just dense?

Which part of I put the blame equally on both of them are you not understanding? I have no horse in the race. I like both, also not an overly big fan of either.

What is my “agenda” exactly?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Usyk never dropped any belt to duck somebody. He will beat Hrgovic.

[Stuntman Mike]

Mate can you read or are you just dense?

Which part of I put the blame equally on both of them are you not understanding? I have no horse in the race. I like both, also not an overly big fan of either.

What is my “agenda” exactly?

You're giving fury the benefit of the doubt with equal blame when it'd obvious he is fully to blame.

[IronDanHamza]

You're giving fury the benefit of the doubt with equal blame when it'd obvious he is fully to blame.

You’re saying it’s obvious when you’ve yet to explain how that’s the case.

I’m stating facts of the events that happened from both sides during this last negotiation. Fury played media games, as did Usyk. Because neither wanted it in the UK and are waiting out Saudi.

You only acknowledge one side whereas I acknowledge both, yet it’s apparently me with the agenda

You can’t even put a single point together regarding this negotiation. All you’ve done is talk about past events and correlated them to this one. That’s not how it works I’m afraid.

[Dr. Z]

Not really.

It’s a good back and forth and good dialogue.

He makes a good point about the 60-40. I thought it was in writing but it seems it’s not.

Well all in good fun then. And Usyk called out Fury's manhood with a 70 / 30 offer in his favor,. I don't know why people defender Fury. He is a PED cheater and a known fouler who has been docked five time in separate fights for points.

[Dr. Z]

Usyk never dropped any belt to duck somebody. He will beat Hrgovic.

I disagree that he will. It reamins to be seen if Usyk follows thought or drops a belt to Hrgovic.