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We constantly confuse “hard” puncher with a “good” puncher. This isn’t slap comp where you just stand there. It’s all about damage. It all happens in real time with a ton of other factors going on. Getting hit with a punch you didn’t see has a huge effect on the damage it causes. Why sucker punches has such great effect. Getting countered causes way more damage. It’s because you can’t brace yourself and throw at the same exact time. A hard puncher who generates more force from speed is going to have some advantage on landing everything else being equal like skill.Comment
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Baseball players can't automatically hit a golf ball. Tennis players aren't necessarily great table tennis players. Remember when Usain Bolt was going to be a pacy soccer striker? He looked ridiculous on the pitch and his speed didn't translate to anything. In fact he looked slow compared to guys who had trained their whole lives to make runs in soccer.
The macro fundamentals might be similar but they're completely different techniques.
Ngannou isn't going to walk into the boxing world and become an elite level puncher. He won't even be an average puncher.
The fact that anyone sees different is testament to Fury, Warren and Arum being right when they estimate the average boxing fan's lack of understanding of the sport.
You'll see it within seconds. The first punch that Ngannou throws will look ridiculous in a boxing ring. That's not really a statement on Ngannou, except to say he's trained his entire life for a different sport.
Think about the varying levels of jabbing ability at even the top level of boxing. Professional boxers don't necessarily have a great jab - how will Ngannou?
There will be no shock. Fury will play with Ngannou. Then he'll win. But they'll make it look semi interesting for a bit so that the crowd don't riot when they realise how badly they've been conned.
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Perry got 4 finishes in 15 UFC fights.....
I dont think Ngannou has much of a chance at all, but again, it has **** all to do with his power. Why are you acting like if he doesnt stop or hurt the best HW boxer on the planet it means he cant punch? how come Wilders power "disappeared" when he was unable to KO Fury across a combined 30 rounds?
I mean, you're essentially arguing that that punch Steve Cunningham landed was harder than anything Ngannou has ever landed or is capable of landing. Does that not seem ridiculous to you?Comment
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Lol, the "big leagues" where he'd kill basically everybody in a matter of minutes in an actual fight, where ex-MMA fighters can make their debuts in PPV main events against world champs and most of the biggest fights of the last 5-6 years involve washed up MMA fighters and Youtubers.Last edited by TMLT87; 07-12-2023, 11:34 PM.Comment
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When Mike Perry had a boxing match with a journeyman he was 11-1 was a 100% KO Ratio...
No it doesn't seem ridiculous. Cunningham probably hits harder than Ngannou.
Wilder had Fury down 4 times in 3 fights, badly hurt twice. The chances of Ngannou knocking down Fury is entirely 0%, and he can land as many clean punches as he wants, they won't have anything on them.Comment
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You mean 2-0 and 6 months into his MMA career.
This just goes to show how insanely biased to the point of delusion boxing fans can be. Of course i'm not saying boxers dont clearly hit harder ON AVERAGE but the idea that punching power is dictated by whether your official occupation is a boxer or an MMA fighter is ridiculous. Are we forgetting that Furys last opponent (who is supposedly top 10 level) was a bum kickboxer and MMA fighter who switched to boxing too?Comment
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