AJ vs Wilder bigger than Fury vs Usyk?

[NorvernRob]

Sadly I agree. PPV is all about selling to the ignorant masses. Wilder and Joshua are better known names and you got that US vs UK element also.

I have to admit, I'd be equally excited for both fights. I have no valid excuse other than Joshua/Wilder promises to be fireworks.

But buying a PPV is all about the spectacle. Will the fight be worth it? We all know with 100% certainly that at AJ - Wilder fight would end in a KO, but a Fury - Usyk fight could well be garbage.

It’s like Ancient Rome still in that respect, the masses want to see blood and they pay to see someone smashed up.

[OldTerry]

I think that a Fury verses Usyk fight would be a superior exhibition of boxing skills, but I also believe a Wilder verses Joshua fight would be more exciting to watch. Which one would I watch if both were on PPV at the same time? That would be a hard decision to make.

[4truth]

But buying a PPV is all about the spectacle. Will the fight be worth it? We all know with 100% certainly that at AJ - Wilder fight would end in a KO, but a Fury - Usyk fight could well be garbage.

It’s like Ancient Rome still in that respect, the masses want to see blood and they pay to see someone smashed up.

I don't think Usyk/Fury would be garbage, almost no matter what course the fight took.

But yeah, Joshua/Wilder would almost certainly be spectacular.

[kafkod]

We know Eubank and Benn signed contracts. The fight was officially announced you absolute m***. Fury vs Joshua was never official, not in 2020, not in 2022, not ever. I told everyone this from day one as well.

Fury and AJ obviously never signed contracts, you blatantly know they never as well. Again you’re just desperate to defend Eddie/AJ like the pathetic little cuck that you are.

Do you really believe Fury and AJ signed contracts? Yes or no?
Because if they did (which they obviously didn’t) do you not think those contracts would’ve been breached when the fight didn’t happen and they fought other people? Do you not think both teams would have sued each other over the breaching of a multi-million pound contract? Are you really this slow or are you just playing dumb to protect AJ/Eddie?

You’re the one changing the subject you spastic, I’ve been asking you the same question for like 5 pages now and you keep ducking the question like the little b**** you are. YOU CLAIMED that AJ and Usyk were “able to put politics aside”, so what were those politics? Or did you just make them up in a desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn?

It's so funny imagining you frothing at the mouth while you wrote that!

I'm not wasting my time on pointless discussions about boxing politics. Especially not with a guy who will reply to everything I say with childish - and even worse, boringly predictable - insults. Go away now, I've had enough of this shit.

[kafkod]

There isn't any question as to who owns the era - It’s clearly Tyson Fury. This in light of his owning the only title acknowledged by history, by virtue of his never having been beaten, His epic 3x step up against the only other alphabet title claimant who managed to hold onto his title until unification fights could begin, and finally; by the fact that Joshua, long ago thought by many to have compiled the best resume of the three kings; is now so crestfallen, having lost three times (once horrifically) to Gentlemen that he was favored to beat (and should have beat).

The round-robbin was SUPPOSED to be a series of match-ups between Fury, Wilder and Joshua to settle the big question, and it was begun when both Fury and Wilder stepped up.

It was Joshua alone who failed to keep up his end of the bargain by becomming a 2 win - 3 loss contender blowing fights to 2 contenders from outside of the "Big Three".
Oleksandr Usyk was no "Top 4 guy" until he whipped Anthony Joshua. Beforehand he was just the former Cruiserweight king who looked ordinary against Chazz Witherspoon and Derrick Chisora.

We agree that these Fury/Wilder/AJ/Usyk/Ruiz fights most definitely must take place in order to wrap up this era properly.

If you look at the fighters recognised by history as "owning" their era, they all have one thing in common: They fought and beat everybody who mattered in that era. Fury hasn't done that. If AJ is one of the guys who mattered in this era, and Usyk beat him twice, then Usyk clearly matters too, and Fury needs to beat him, and probably AJ too, to be recognised as the top dog.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It's so funny imagining you frothing at the mouth while you wrote that!

I'm not wasting my time on pointless discussions about boxing politics. Especially not with a guy who will reply to everything I say with childish - and even worse, boringly predictable - insults. Go away now, I've had enough of this shit.

You do realise you’re the guy who quoted me desperate to defend Eddie, it’s like you’ve sworn an oath to protect and serve. My OP in this thread wasn’t offensive in the slightest but you took issue with it as you always do with anyone critiquing Matchroom. You’re like a groupie man.

You always run away when you’ve been called out on your false claims. Typical b**** behaviour, you continue to duck questions as always too because you know they’ll expose you.

Do you really think Fury and AJ signed a contract? Or did you just fabricate that in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn?

You claimed “AJ and Usyk put politics aside”, what politics were you referring to? Or yet again did you make them up in another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If you look at the fighters recognised by history as "owning" their era, they all have one thing in common: They fought and beat everybody who mattered in that era. Fury hasn't done that. If AJ is one of the guys who mattered in this era, and Usyk beat him twice, then Usyk clearly matters too, and Fury needs to beat him, and probably AJ too, to be recognised as the top dog.

Lewis never beat Bowe as a pro did he not own that era?

Wladimir never beat Vitali did he not own that era?

Did Roy not own the Light Heavyweight division in the late 90’s/ early 00’s?

Did Hearns not own 154 in the 80’s?

Again, it’s just desperate reaching to protect AJ, it’s f***ing embarrassing man. You literally are a groupie.

[juggernaut666]

Lewis never beat Bowe as a pro did he not own that era?

Wladimir never beat Vitali did he not own that era?

Did Roy not own the Light Heavyweight division in the late 90’s/ early 00’s?

Did Hearns not own 154 in the 80’s?

Again, it’s just desperate reaching to protect AJ, it’s f***ing embarrassing man. You literally are a groupie.

Lewis fought the most top 10 guys and the Klitschkos were brothers ,you seem to have brought ****** to another level again for yourself .

[The D3vil]

It is the bigger fight.

I'm more interested in Fury/Usyk, but I'm a boxing fan.

Casuals (who are the ones who have all the money) want to see people get KTFO & Joshua/Wilder guarantees that.

Plus, you have a "gypsy" versus a Ukrainian, which aren't exactly huge audiences.

"The Pride of Great Britian" and the "Best American heavyweight since Bowe" is bound to do a better just based on being appeal to much bigger audiences.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Lewis fought the most top 10 guys and the Klitschkos were brothers ,you seem to have brought ****** to another level again for yourself .

Here’s the ultimate AJ groupie.

Didn’t you infamously claim AJ was going to the be the GOAT? You really demonstrated your incredible intelligence with that prediction.