AJ vs Wilder bigger than Fury vs Usyk?

[kafkod]

What politics are you referring to? No politics stood in the way of that fight and you know it.

Do you believe AJ and Fury signed a contract yes or no? They blatantly never signed a contract and you know it.

You just fabricated both those things in a desperate attempt to defend AJ/Eddie. It’s so transparent.

Such a groupie, it’s laughable.

"What politics are you referring to? No politics stood in the way of that fight and you know it"

The same politics you were referring to when I quoted you saying that. If you don't know what you were talking about when you said it, that's your problem.

"Do you believe AJ and Fury signed a contract yes or no?"

I've already told you multiple times that I never said they signed contracts. I said both sides confirmed that a deal had been agreed and the fight was on.

Do you accept that the bolded is true? Yes or no.

[Willow The Wisp]

If you look at the fighters recognised by history as "owning" their era, they all have one thing in common: They fought and beat everybody who mattered in that era. Fury hasn't done that. If AJ is one of the guys who mattered in this era, and Usyk beat him twice, then Usyk clearly matters too, and Fury needs to beat him, and probably AJ too, to be recognised as the top dog.

We agree. If Fury wants to be remembered as an all-time great, era dominating champion of the ages, it is his obligation then to clean up his house. While he has established that he and NOT Wilder, Usyk, Joshua, Ruiz, Ortiz or Whyte owns this age, by what hes already done, there is still WORK to be done. 100%

Sure, Sullivan missed Peter Jackson, Johnson missed Luther McCarty, Dempsey missed Harry Wills, Louis missed Nikolai Korolev, Marciano missed Bob Baker, Ali missed Teofilo Stevenson, Larry Holmes missed Gerrie Coetzee, Mike Tyson missed Tim Witherspoon, and so on; so few get to clean up every corner; but for Tyson Fury there's no reason why he can't button up his legacy, at the moment still a bit light; with the severed heads of Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Usyk, neither of whom should be an insurmountable problem for him.

He should do this for himself, for as the challengers are swept aside, so too are the perpetual critics of his work.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

"What politics are you referring to? No politics stood in the way of that fight and you know it"

The same politics you were referring to when I quoted you saying that. If you don't know what you were talking about when you said it, that's your problem.

"Do you believe AJ and Fury signed a contract yes or no?"

I've already told you multiple times that I never said they signed contracts. I said both sides confirmed that a deal had been agreed and the fight was on.

Do you accept that the bolded is true? Yes or no.

The politics I was referring to were Fury and Wilder had rival promoters and rival networks. I’ve told you multiple times.

Now what politics did AJ and Usyk put aside like you falsely claimed?

You know there was no politics involved in AJ-Usyk. You just fabricated them to defend AJ/Hearn cause you’re a little cuck for them.

I’m not asking if you said it, I’m asking do you actually believe Fury and Joshua signed contracts? Yes or no?

You know they never signed contracts but again fabricated the possibility in a yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn.

You’re such a f***ing groupie man, it’s so embarrassing.

I’m not a little b**** like you so I’ll actually answer your question. No. No contracts were signed so nothing was “agreed”. Both sides LIED, just like they did late last year about “the fight being on” for December.

Now let’s see if you give me a yes or no answer, I guarantee you won’t…

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...e-public-again

I told all you gullible idiots this beforehand as well. Unless a contract is signed, a fight isn’t agreed.

[Mammoth]

Probably.

[Marchegiano]

I didn't realize AJ still had fans willing to back him in contract discussions. I wonder how many times he has to fail to get into the ring with Wilder or Fury before no one buys his bull**** anymore.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I didn't realize AJ still had fans willing to back him in contract discussions. I wonder how many times he has to fail to get into the ring with Wilder or Fury before no one buys his bull**** anymore.

They’re so delusional. How can a fight be “agreed”, “on”, “finalised” etc when a contract was never signed and it didn’t f***ing happen?

[kafkod]

The politics I was referring to were Fury and Wilder had rival promoters and rival networks. I’ve told you multiple times.

Now what politics did AJ and Usyk put aside like you falsely claimed?

You know there was no politics involved in AJ-Usyk. You just fabricated them to defend AJ/Hearn cause you’re a little cuck for them.

I’m not asking if you said it, I’m asking do you actually believe Fury and Joshua signed contracts? Yes or no?

You know they never signed contracts but again fabricated the possibility in a yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn.

You’re such a f***ing groupie man, it’s so embarrassing.

I’m not a little b**** like you so I’ll actually answer your question. No. No contracts were signed so nothing was “agreed”. Both sides LIED, just like they did late last year about “the fight being on” for December.

Now let’s see if you give me a yes or no answer, I guarantee you won’t…

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...e-public-again

I told all you gullible idiots this beforehand as well. Unless a contract is signed, a fight isn’t agreed.

Ahhhh, get it now. When a fact fits your agenda, it's a fact. When a fact doesn't fit your agenda, it's a lie.

One simple, honest answer from you could put this debate to bed and make all this to and fro about contracts and politics irrelevant. Let's see if you're man enough to give it ... was it Eddie Hearn's fault that the Fury/AJ fight we're talking about never happened, or was it something totally outside Eddie's control - a rematch clause between Fury and Wilder - that scuppered the deal?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Ahhhh, get it now. When a fact fits your agenda, it's a fact. When a fact doesn't fit your agenda, it's a lie.

One simple, honest answer from you could put this debate to bed and make all this to and fro about contracts and politics irrelevant. Let's see if you're man enough to give it ... was it Eddie Hearn's fault that the Fury/AJ fight we're talking about never happened, or was it something totally outside Eddie's control - a rematch clause between Fury and Wilder - that scuppered the deal?

They claimed the fight was on and it didn’t happen. They clearly lied. It’s an undeniable fact.

Now I answered your questions, stop running like a b**** and answer mine.

You claimed AJ and Usyk “put politics aside”, what politics were you referring to?

Do you believe Fury and Joshua signed a contract? YES or NO?

Or did you just fabricate both of those things in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn?

[kafkod]

They claimed the fight was on and it didn’t happen. They clearly lied. It’s an undeniable fact.

Now I answered your questions, stop running like a b**** and answer mine.

You claimed AJ and Usyk “put politics aside”, what politics were you referring to?

Do you believe Fury and Joshua signed a contract? YES or NO?

Or did you just fabricate both of those things in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn?

Who lied by telling everybody the fight was on because there was no way the Fury/Wilder rematch clause could stop it?

Stop deflecting and be a man, for once in your pathetic bitch-made life.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Who lied by telling everybody the fight was on because there was no way the Fury/Wilder rematch clause could stop it?

Stop deflecting and be a man, for once in your pathetic bitch-made life.

“Stop deflecting”.

Are you for real? You’ve been deflecting my question for about 6 pages. You’re so full of sh**.

What politics were you referring to? I’ve asked you 10+ times if not more.