AJ vs Wilder bigger than Fury vs Usyk?

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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    What politics? Usyk wasn’t with a rival promoter or rival network.
    So why haven't Fury or Wilder fought him then?

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      #32
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      You’re a massive cuck for Hearn.

      You jump to defend his honour at every opportunity.
      And you're just an obsessive prick. Hearn, Hearn, Hearn .... Eddie, Eddie, Eddie ...


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        #33
        Originally posted by Sparked_26
        I am interested in any fight with Wilder tbh.

        I didn't think I was a fan because he's just an odd character with his excuses.

        But..

        Out of the 4 fighters mentioned: AJ, Wilder, Usyk, and Fury. And whilst I prefer the other 3 to Deontay in the sense if they were fighting Wilder I'd want them to beat him.

        But any pairing that includes Wilder is preferable.

        I'd still welcome Fury/Wilder 4 and Tyson has splattered him twice.

        Even going further - Wilder vs Joyce, Ruiz, Hrgogic even Zhang are also golden.

        Wilder IS box office.
        I know where you're coming from here. Wilder is not a likeable character, but he is interesting and entertaining, in his own delusional way. And a lot of fans want to see him against a dangerous opponent who isn't called Tyson Fury to find out how good Deontay actually is.

        But I don't know if he's box office against the likes of Hrgovic, Ruiz and Zhang. Those names don't mean anything to most casual fans.

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          #34
          Originally posted by kafkod

          So why haven't Fury or Wilder fought him then?
          So no politics then. C’mon what politics were you talking about? Or were you making them up in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn? It’s a common theme with you.

          Fury and Wilder had rival promoters, rival networks but still fought 3 times. AJ fought neither. It’s a fact and know it eats away at you EDL members but you have to accept it.

          Fury-Usyk will hopefully be next. I’m not too optimistic though. I’ve said from day one, I don’t think Fury fancies the Usyk fight. See unlike you, I’m able to critique fighters I support.

          When could Wilder have fought Usyk? That’s such a reach You’re so full of sh**. Again it’s a desperate attempt to protect AJ/Hearn. You’re pathetic.

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            #35
            Originally posted by kafkod

            Hearn, Hearn, Hearn .... Eddie, Eddie, Eddie ...

            Who sounds obsessive again?

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              #36
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT


              Fury and Wilder had rival promoters, rival networks but still fought 3 times.
              Yes, Fury and Wilder fought each other 3 times, which was one time too many, because the 2nd fight was a blow out and the 3rd scuppered the undisputed fight between Fury and AJ, which Eddie Hearn negotiated with the Arabs and both Fury and AJ agreed to.

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                #37
                Originally posted by kafkod

                Yes, Fury and Wilder fought each other 3 times, which was one time too many, because the 2nd fight was a blow out and the 3rd scuppered the undisputed fight between Fury and AJ, which Eddie Hearn negotiated with the Arabs and both Fury and AJ agreed to.
                Negotiated a deal for a fight that never happened. I.e. failed negotiations.

                Stop ducking the question, what politics were standing in the way of AJ-Usyk? Or did you just make them up to defend Eddie/AJ?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  Negotiated a deal for a fight that never happened. I.e. failed negotiations.

                  Stop ducking the question, what politics were standing in the way of AJ-Usyk? Or did you just make them up to defend Eddie/AJ?

                  Failed negotiations? What the fuck are you on about? There were no failed negotiations. All terms were agreed and accepted by both sides.​

                  "Tyson Fury has confirmed he will fight Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia on August 14 to become undisputed heavyweight champion and promised it will be the biggest sporting event ever to grace the planet earth"

                  Promoter Eddie Hearn told Sky Sports this week that Joshua and Fury had finalised the date for their undisputed heavyweight championship clash and will meet in a specially-created stadium

                  Fury, in a video posted on his Twitter account, confirmed the fight, saying: "Got some massive news for you all guys.
                  "I've just got off the phone from Prince Khalid of Saudi Arabia, he's told me this fight is 100 per cent on.
                  ​"August 14, 2021, summer time - all eyes of the world will be on the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia."


                  Promoter Eddie Hearn said this week that Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury had finalised the date for their undisputed heavyweight championship clash and will meet in a specially-created stadium; Fury says: I cannot wait to smash Anthony Joshua on the biggest stage of all time



                  Your question makes no sense. AJ and Usyk fought each other twice.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Eddie Hearn has said several times that a fight between his man AJ and Tyson Fury would do bigger numbers than the undisputed clash between Fury and Usyk, and I think Eddie is probably correct about that.

                    However, both Hearn and Frank Smith, the CEO of Matchroom, have gone on record saying that they believe a fight between AJ and Wilder would also make more money than Fury and Usyk. Sam Jones, Joe Joyce's manager, said the same thing late last year and a couple of Youtube boxing channels I sub to are agreeing with this.

                    Personally, I find it difficult to believe that a fight between 2 ex world title holders, with no titles at stake, would be financially bigger than an undisputed heavyweight title fight between 2 undefeated champions.

                    What do you guys think?
                    Both massive promotions.
                    This is an excellent generation of Heavyweights, and any pairing of Fury, Wilder, Joshua, Usyk, Ruiz, Joyce and any of the best who are on the upswing will do Large numbers.
                    Watch for the viewership data for Zhang vs. Joyce and you will be astounded.
                    The heavyweight division is alive!

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                      #40
                      probably. casuals are the money.

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