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    #41
    Fury - Usyk, battle of the winners to decide the greatest HW of this generation.

    Joshua vs Wilder, battle of the losers.

    It's not even like Joshua vs Wilder is competitive, everyone knows that Wilder lays him cold in a few rounds.

    I know which fight I'd rather watch.

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      #42
      For entertainment value ?
      Yes.

      Someone is getting KTFO.

      Fury vs Usyk could be boring and dirty.

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        #43
        Originally posted by kafkod


        Failed negotiations? What the fuck are you on about? There were no failed negotiations. All terms were agreed and accepted by both sides.​

        "Tyson Fury has confirmed he will fight Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia on August 14 to become undisputed heavyweight champion and promised it will be the biggest sporting event ever to grace the planet earth"

        Promoter Eddie Hearn told Sky Sports this week that Joshua and Fury had finalised the date for their undisputed heavyweight championship clash and will meet in a specially-created stadium

        Fury, in a video posted on his Twitter account, confirmed the fight, saying: "Got some massive news for you all guys.
        "I've just got off the phone from Prince Khalid of Saudi Arabia, he's told me this fight is 100 per cent on.
        ​"August 14, 2021, summer time - all eyes of the world will be on the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia."


        https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...ing-event-ever


        Your question makes no sense. AJ and Usyk fought each other twice.
        Negotiations for a fight that DID NOT HAPPEN. I.e. Failed negotiations.

        You’re posting articles saying the fight is confirmed, but we know the fight didn’t happen so how the hell was it confirmed? No contracts were ever signed. You’re such a gullible fool. I told everybody from day 1 that fight wasn’t going to happen too.

        C’mon you question ducking little b****, what politics were involved in making Joshua vs Usyk like YOU CLAIMED? Or did you just make them up in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Eddie?

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          #44
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Eddie Hearn has said several times that a fight between his man AJ and Tyson Fury would do bigger numbers than the undisputed clash between Fury and Usyk, and I think Eddie is probably correct about that.

          However, both Hearn and Frank Smith, the CEO of Matchroom, have gone on record saying that they believe a fight between AJ and Wilder would also make more money than Fury and Usyk. Sam Jones, Joe Joyce's manager, said the same thing late last year and a couple of Youtube boxing channels I sub to are agreeing with this.

          Personally, I find it difficult to believe that a fight between 2 ex world title holders, with no titles at stake, would be financially bigger than an undisputed heavyweight title fight between 2 undefeated champions.

          What do you guys think?
          Wilder AJ would make far more.

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            #45
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            Negotiations for a fight that DID NOT HAPPEN. I.e. Failed negotiations.

            You’re posting articles saying the fight is confirmed, but we know the fight didn’t happen so how the hell was it confirmed? No contracts were ever signed. You’re such a gullible fool. I told everybody from day 1 that fight wasn’t going to happen too.

            C’mon you question ducking little b****, what politics were involved in making Joshua vs Usyk like YOU CLAIMED? Or did you just make them up in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Eddie?
            Stop acting like a complete tit, if you are even capable of doing so.

            Fury vs AJ was negotiated successfully. Both sides confirmed that they had accepted all terms and were ready to go.

            I'm not defending anyone, I'm just stating a fact which you don't want to accept because of the way you feel about Edddie Hearn. Well get this, dickhead ... facts don't care about your feelings, and neither do I, tbh.

            I can't answer your question because it's as dumb as everything else you've said in this thread. Define what you mean by politics.

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              #46
              Originally posted by denium
              Fury - Usyk, battle of the winners to decide the greatest HW of this generation.

              Joshua vs Wilder, battle of the losers.

              It's not even like Joshua vs Wilder is competitive, everyone knows that Wilder lays him cold in a few rounds.

              I know which fight I'd rather watch.
              I don't see how AJ vs Wilder makes more money than Fury Usyk, but it would still be a massive fight because of the history, the bad blood and the fact that, if they are honest, most people would admit that it could go either way.

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                #47
                Originally posted by kafkod

                Stop acting like a complete tit, if you are even capable of doing so.

                Fury vs AJ was negotiated successfully. Both sides confirmed that they had accepted all terms and were ready to go.

                I'm not defending anyone, I'm just stating a fact which you don't want to accept because of the way you feel about Edddie Hearn. Well get this, dickhead ... facts don't care about your feelings, and neither do I, tbh.

                I can't answer your question because it's as dumb as everything else you've said in this thread. Define what you mean by politics.
                How can a fight be “negotiated successfully” when it doesn’t happen? The fight didn’t happen, that’s a fact, so the negotiations evidently FAILED.
                How ****** are you?

                You claimed “AJ and Usyk were able to put politics aside”. Your EXACT WORDS. So yet again: What politics? Or did you make them up in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Boxing 112

                  Wilder AJ would make far more.
                  I don't get see why it would. Fury is as big as AJ in the UK and bigger than Wilder in the US. Usyk is unknown in the US, but well known and very popular just about everywhere else. Once Fury/Usyk gets signed and the networks and promoters involved start publicising it, I think the intrigue and glamour of the first undisputed heavyweight title fight of the present era, between 2 undefeated, charismatic champions, will catch the casual fans attention and turn it into a very big fight indeed.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    How can a fight be “negotiated successfully” when it doesn’t happen? The fight didn’t happen, that’s a fact, so the negotiations evidently FAILED.
                    How ****** are you?

                    You claimed “AJ and Usyk were able to put politics aside”. Your EXACT WORDS. So yet again: What politics? Or did you make them up in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn?
                    Are failed negotiations the only reason why a fight doesn't happen?

                    Did Eubank Jr vs Benn not happen because of failed negotiations, or was there some other reason?

                    Fury vs AJ was successfully negotiated. I know that, you know that, and everybody who gives a fuck knows that too. Grow up ffs.

                    When I said "put politics aside" I was directly quoting you. So whatever you meant when you said that, I meant the same thing.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by kafkod

                      Are failed negotiations the only reason why a fight doesn't happen?

                      Did Eubank Jr vs Benn not happen because of failed negotiations, or was there some other reason?

                      Fury vs AJ was successfully negotiated. I know that, you know that, and everybody who gives a fuck knows that too. Grow up ffs.

                      When I said "put politics aside" I was directly quoting you. So whatever you meant when you said that, I meant the same thing.
                      Benn and Eubank Jr SIGNED A CONTRACT you thick c***. Yet another desperate attempt to protect AJ/Hearn.

                      Did Fury and Joshua sign a contract you complete and utter fool? No they didn’t, because negotiations were unsuccessful.

                      Fury and Joshua was never official, was never confirmed and was never signed because it was never successfully negotiated. Only gullible idiots like you believed that fight was happening.

                      As I explained, Fury and Wilder had rival promoters and rival networks and they put politics aside and mate the fight.

                      Now, yet again, what politics did AJ and Usyk put aside? Or did you make them up in yet another desperate attempt to defend AJ/Hearn?

                      I guarantee you duck that question again you little b****.
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