Comments Thread For: Showtime Head on Crawford's 'Transparency' Demands: Absolutely Baffling; Got to Have Certain Level of Trust

[Jsmooth9876]

First of all, you did get May vs. Pac, Fury vs. Wilder x 3, you got Crawford vs. Porter, and you're about to get Fulton vs. Inoue, so it's not about "none of the PBC guys," it's about Spence vs. Crawford! Arum said the fight wasn't big enough for what the fighters want. Crawford is suing Bob Arum, not Al Haymon! Crawford has issues because of his dealing with TR, so let him deal with BLK Prime, whch will give him 8 figures to fight Avanesyan, etc.! Spence is cool with his relationship with Al Haymon, and many others too, so let's move forward! If they can do Tank vs. Garcia, then they can do Spence vs. Ortiz Jr., however, let's get Spence vs. Boots first! F--k Bud Crawford!

What do those fights have to do with the 147 PBC guys not wanting to fight Crawford? Garcia turned down I think $3 million and Thurman said he wanted $10 Mil lol. That's what I meant by those PBC guys.... Not Crawford's fault they wouldn't fight him

[Sctrojan]

Well that's exactly why he won't be getting the Errol Spence fight because he only wants it on his own terms but lacks both the backing and leverage in order to get it. Besides, the PBC doesn't owe Terence Bud Duckford anything nor do they need his services.

It's not like he is going get them any more money by bringing in new fans or by putting more meat in the seats. You can see how no other major promotional company has made him any offers since leaving Top rank and becoming a free agent because he has failed to build and establish his brand.

Moreover, you contradicted yourself. First you said the fight didn't happen because Bud wanted financial transparency.
Then you said quote: "Crawford got tired of being walked/lead on for months and walked right on over to someone willing to pay him aguarantee for a fight without a ridiculously structured offer. Simple stuff here. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush....."

So which is it sunshine? What was the reason for Bud Duckford walking away from the negotiations? Was it do to a lack of financial transparency or was due to a lack of guaranteed money?

Since Haymon never offered Bud neither, we"ll never know now, will we Sweetheart?!?

What we do know is all it took was a gaurantee from BLK and the fight got made. Like I've mentioned in the past,Crawfords not obligated to treat Haymon/PBC as a charity because they can't/couldn't afford to offer Crawford a modest gaurantee.

[brettWall]

I don't see any light in this dark negotiation tunnel. It's more of the same story. I don't know why these people have to come out without offering solutions. Why can't they just say, "Sorry folks, fight is not happening."

It's fine. Focus on other fights. Many PBC fighters still remain inactive. No follow up fight for Adames, for example, after a KO win. How about Morrell, Jermall Charlo, Derevyanchenko, Gausha is still dangerous, Lara, there's Murata if you want a Tokyo fight, Golovkin is a free agent, I thought Charlo and Lara are desperate for that fight, etc.

[Bronx2245]

What do those fights have to do with the 147 PBC guys not wanting to fight Crawford? Garcia turned down I think $3 million and Thurman said he wanted $10 Mil lol. That's what I meant by those PBC guys.... Not Crawford's fault they wouldn't fight him

When Crawford signed an extension to Top Rank, where were all the elite, Top Level WWs? Where did Pacquiao go? So he stayed in a place, where he's now filing a lawsuit, and it's the PBC's fault? Nah, I'm not buying it! Crawford vs. Pacquiao would've changed Bud's legacy forever! How do you not require that fight as a condition of your extension? Floyd left, Cotto left, Mikey left, and Pacquiao left, but you stayed? Crawford is super talented, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer! I wish him luck with BLK Prime! Time to move forward, with or without him!

[paulf]

According to Espinoza "he knows what it costs because he's been doing it a long time" If Espinoza is being truthful could easily give Crawford a hard number and done.....but he won't because Espinoza does NOT want this fight and he will continue to make excuses for why it's not happening.

And what happens when Crawford doesn't approve adequate security? Or he doesn't approve promotional expenses based on what they analysts are saying they should spend to maximize revenue? What happens when he doesn't approve spending money on ring card girls and says his fat ass cousins will put on some booty shorts and work the event for free?

You see how insane all this sounds? To give a man with zero executive experience or education the reigns to their business?

There isn't a fighter in the world who could get a promoter to agree to what he's asking.

[P4P Forever]

Epinoza is describing how Don King made his money off dumb fighters. If he doesn't want transparency give him an up front guarantee.Epinoza's team could literally pocket the whole check legally without transparency he would just sub contract to his own firms.

Espinoza is so full of ****e. He on he's way out soon watch. Only the grimy slimy PBC cheerleaders here pretending it's on Bud.
Spence so scared he fighting Thurman who he said he'd never fight, at (154)! Litterly running away from his own weight class. This with his stable mate as long running champ at 154. Smhhhh not a good look. Pathetic but that Buds fault right? sad so sad PBC = pathetic boxing cowards
publicly blocking championships
Spence PBC Showtime are a bunch of *****s

[P4P Forever]

When Crawford signed an extension to Top Rank, where were all the elite, Top Level WWs? Where did Pacquiao go? So he stayed in a place, where he's now filing a lawsuit, and it's the PBC's fault? Nah, I'm not buying it! Crawford vs. Pacquiao would've changed Bud's legacy forever! How do you not require that fight as a condition of your extension? Floyd left, Cotto left, Mikey left, and Pacquiao left, but you stayed? Crawford is super talented, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer! I wish him luck with BLK Prime! Time to move forward, with or without him!

You can talk around this fight all you want. Everyone see right thru it. You back PBC regardless of how pathetic they are that's on you. Like some lost Cheerleader! Spence is scared **** of Crawford and everyone knows it.
Spence so so scared he's now fight Thurman at 154 lol Thurman (chuckle )!!!
154 running away from his own division 147! Fighting a guy he said he'd never fight and at 154.
That's weak AF. Litterly running to 154 away from Bud what a ***** ass ***** your backing. Bud started at what 135 what Spence start at? What is Bud still to dangerous at 147 old Bud Al and PBC are so ****in weak PBC= ***** ***** coward

[QballLobo]

B side accepts the offers he doesn’t make demands.

Crawford loses to much money for promoters to try and pull a boss move on Al Haymon.

Bud isn’t that guy.

[P4P Forever]

B side accepts the offers he doesn’t make demands.

Crawford loses to much money for promoters to try and pull a boss move on Al Haymon.

Bud isn’t that guy.

Maybe Spence just a scared ***** running to 154 more like it

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

How is it baffling that a fighter wants to know see the numbers that he creates with his own sweat, blood, tears, health, and/or life in the ring. How is it baffling that he wants to have some say so over how the money is distributed.......How is it not baffling that mfers who never step in the ring and put there life on the line feel they are more important than those that do in the sport.......

Transparency should not be a deal breaker in negotiations against these fighters. Anyone ignorant enough to suggest the opposite, I should be baffled at their lack of logic.