Floyd Mayweather Avoided Everyone Who Had A Physical Advantage Over Him ... Genius or Fraudster?

[Roadblock]

It's an illogical outlook from every angle.

Floyd has two fights in his career he arguably lost, that's Castillo 1 and Maidana 1. That's "getting by on tough fights" apparently.

Says' Roy Jones beat "atleast" two prime ATG's when you could easily argue he actually beat zero prime ATG's.

Then uses Ward as an example when he argubaly lost the first Kovalev fight and was almost knocked out by Darnell Boone.

Makes no sense.

Most everything said about Mayweather from certain posters is illogical, they have double standards concerning Floyd, look at the thread title when Floyd fought so many guys bigger than him and if you go though Mannys resume he outweighs JMM Morales and Barrera by good margins yet if that was Mayweather he would be a weight bully, and Floyd gave Castillo 15 pound on the night, gave 10pounds to Maidana, gave 20 pounds to Oscar, in the second round of the Canelo fight they say Canelo was 168 and Mayweather was 151, these weights can be easily proven its massive double standards applied to Floyd.

[Roadblock]

No thats not exactly what happened. Everything was agreed to on both sides, then at the 11th hour Floyd came back and wanted to throw in additional blood testing, demanded blood testing be done all the way up to the fight and knew Manny wouldn't go far that.

Did a smiliar tactic when he didn't want to fight Margarito and Winky Wright. This is what Floyd do when he don't want the fight. He fakes like he wants then at the last possible second throws a wrench in the bench, and the whole thing is scrapped.

Im not going over the same BS again its been done to death, Manny wanted a known cut of date for testing and that's what Mayweather would not agree to he wanted random testing no cut offs and Manny walked out, roach is on record stating it was their fault why the fight did not happen at that time.

Margarito Winky was not any form of negotiation, don't try subject changing the merry-go-round doesn't work with me, the conversation was Manny Floyd, the facts remain that it was Manny that walked out of the deal in 2010 and it was Floyd that made the fight happen when it did, not Manny, that is easily proven.

[MikeyMike100]

What about Canelo

[djtmal]

Im not going over the same BS again its been done to death, Manny wanted a known cut of date for testing and that's what Mayweather would not agree to he wanted random testing no cut offs and Manny walked out, roach is on record stating it was their fault why the fight did not happen at that time.

Margarito Winky was not any form of negotiation, don't try subject changing the merry-go-round doesn't work with me, the conversation was Manny Floyd, the facts remain that it was Manny that walked out of the deal in 2010 and it was Floyd that made the fight happen when it did, not Manny, that is easily proven.

You don't want to go over it but you brought it up to begin with.

Maybe you don't want to because you conveniently left out the fact that the first fight was a done deal until Floyd came back at the last minute with some new bs ost demands and basically tried to bully Manny into accepting blood testing with no cutoff date.

Its no surprise it ended the negotiations because that's what it was supposed to do. We saw Floyd do the same move twice previously so we know he was scared of the guy automatically. We just didn't know he would be scared of him from 2009 to 2015. Thats an awful long time to be scared of the guy I think the presidency changed hands.

Floyd actually backed out of fight negotiations with Wright and Margarito that's common knowledge

[PRINCEKOOL]

Floyd Mayweather Junior was not a fighter who weight drained himself. So for most of his career, he was competing against fighters who out weighed him considerably.

I am sure there are hardcore Mayweather fans who can post some statistics i.e Fight night weights of his opponents etc.

His decision to not weight drain himself, actually helped him have longevity in the game. Because when a boxer weight drains themselves, eventually those techniques negatively effect the fighters overall condition.

You only have to look at Canelo Alvarez, he has been struggling for sometime now in fights with his endurance.

The main reason why he lost to Bivol was not due to the skill level of Bivol 'It was because Alvarez could not force the fight, or go through the gears' If you can use good movement vs Alvarez, and set a pace which goes beyond his gears? He has never shown the ability to win in that type of fight.

Alvarez lost to Bivol, for the same reasons he lost to Floyd Mayweather Junior.

[Roadblock]

You don't want to go over it but you brought it up to begin with.

Maybe you don't want to because you conveniently left out the fact that the first fight was a done deal until Floyd came back at the last minute with some new bs ost demands and basically tried to make Manny accept blood testing with no cutoff date.

Its no surprise it ended the negotiations because that's what it was supposed to do. We saw Floyd do the same move twice previously so we know he was scared of the guy automatically. We just didn't know he would be scared of him from 2009 to 2015. Thats awful long long I think the presidency changed hands.

I brought up the main outcomes, not the back and forward tit for tat BS that's been done to death, facts Manny walked out in 2010 over testing, fact Floyd made the fight happen when it did, fact and no point did Manny make any direct actions to make the fight, he never lifted a finger directly Floyd approached him personally 3 times and finally got the fight made, its easy to see who wanted the fight by the facts, not the media pantomime but the actual facts on who made the fight happen and who walked out of negotiations.

Dont come with the scared BS that's fan talk, elite fighters arent scared this is your vocabulary.

[GrandpaBernard]

I definitely give Floyd a pass on margarito. Margarito did not use reach, his game was as a pressure guy and winning a fight against him or losing a fight against him was potentially career shortening. Floyd never had a reason to fight margarito.

Madianna was a tough fight for Floyd both times... Floyd got the nods, but madiana had success against Floyd because of his size... being a full size Middle weight and all.

The irony here is that no Floyd did not necessarily duck... But he chose his competition carefully. I like the comparison between Jones and Mayweather it tells a real story imo:

Roy beat at least two ATG's at prime. Mayweather none.
Roy (and Ward for that matter) dominated his opposition at his best... Mayweather got by on tough fights.

At 135 Floyd is one of the best, but imo there are comparable fighters in his generation.

When people hate you nothing you do will ever be good enough

Understandable why Floyd went with HIS fans and said f sports fans

Laughable when people say duck

a duck wouldn't have given Maidana an immediate rematch. The opponent who proved he could give you a tough fight

[GrandpaBernard]

Every version of manny gets a boxing lesson from Floyd

manny fights absolutely nothing like Maidana & Castillo

someone like Duran could get the job done without a major size advantage

[djtmal]

I brought up the main outcomes, .

No you brought up the Floyd outcomes, but tried to conveniently leave out the fact that the negotiation was pretty much a done deal until Floyd came back at the 11th hour and demanded ost. That wasn't in the original agreement, that was a last minute Floyd add-on, and a key component in everything as a whole that you just want to dismiss.

Why would Floyd throw some s**t in there that would **** the whole thing up. Because he didn't want the fight.

Same way he ****ed up the Winky Wright negotiation when he didn't want to go through with that fight. Ditto for Margarito

Floyd was scared man. Even made a scared video about how Manny beat the brakes off Cotto and Hatton.

[djtmal]

I brought up the main outcomes, not the back and forward tit for tat BS that's been done to death, facts Manny walked out in 2010 over testing, fact Floyd made the fight happen when it did, fact and no point did Manny make any direct actions to make the fight, he never lifted a finger directly Floyd approached him personally 3 times and finally got the fight made, its easy to see who wanted the fight by the facts, not the media pantomime but the actual facts on who made the fight happen and who walked out of negotiations.

Dont come with the scared BS that's fan talk, elite fighters arent scared this is your vocabulary.

Oh yeah Floyd wanted that fight after Manny hit about 70+ plus fights and had been ko'd by Marquez. Oh yeah it was no problem making that fight happen then.

No need to be scared no more. The risk was right where he wanted it around 30%.

Manny in his prime really had no physical advantages over Floyd, and Floyd was still scared of him.