Floyd Mayweather Avoided Everyone Who Had A Physical Advantage Over Him ... Genius or Fraudster?

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  • GrandpaBernard
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    #11
    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

    Why put out a poll then? What was the point? And Khan beat Maidana. Floyd fought the guy who lost to Khan. Plus Khan lost to punchers, and many believed he lost to Garcia because of his garbage chin, that he lost due to a lucky punch.Floyd didn't have the concussive power that Garcia had, so it was a matchup that everyone wanted to see. And many think Khan should have got the nod instead of Peterson. Peterson barely eked out a victory.

    Anyway, the point I'm making is that styles make fights. And seeing how Khan beat Maidana, Floyd knew what he had to do, knew that he could do it. Almost backfired, but still.
    Floyd went with the results of the poll on his social media page

    not with the results of espn’s polling

    in other words he went with HIS poll instead of a third party

    of course he’ll go with his fans. They’re the one buying his fights

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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      Bro, how is Paul Williams a legacy fight given Floyd’s resume?

      Total respect for Paul but he is nowhere near as accomplished as the top of Floyds resume. He isnt a HOF’er. He never fought like a tall man either.

      I get the point about reach. Thats fair. Just dont elevate a guy unfairly to force into this narrative.
      How I see it

      Tall Paul isn’t a legacy enhancer for someone with Floyd’s standing

      Tall Paul wouldn’t be very good before or after Floyd faced him

      margarito is arguable

      Sexy Sergio. Definitely good for Floyd’s record

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        #13
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        Bro, how is Paul Williams a legacy fight given Floyd’s resume?

        Total respect for Paul but he is nowhere near as accomplished as the top of Floyds resume. He isnt a HOF’er. He never fought like a tall man either.

        I get the point about reach. Thats fair. Just dont elevate a guy unfairly to force into this narrative.
        Yeah. We can look back now and say that, but the only reason Williams is not a bigger name is due to his accident. Had Paul never been injured, I'm sure we'd be talking about him almost as much as Floyd. It's a shame that he was in a motorcycle accident. I know Martinez KO'd him, but still, he beat Martinez the first time.

        But the point I'm making is that at that time, Williams was big, and it would have been a huge fight if Floyd fought him.

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          #14
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

          How I see it

          Tall Paul isn’t a legacy enhancer for someone with Floyd’s standing

          Tall Paul wouldn’t be very good before or after Floyd faced him

          margarito is arguable

          Sexy Sergio. Definitely good for Floyd’s record
          That's a good point. I suppose so. But it still shows that Floyd didn't fight guys that had a physical advantage over him.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Tankdestroyer
            Bruh it's about to be 2023, Floyd is dam near a senior citizen and been out a real boxing ring for years!!! How are you still stuck up Floyds arse? Seriously? How did floyd get stuck in your head this bad lol? You do realize floyd did keep moving up in weight and fought bigger dudes throughout his career. I have NO fuggin idea why anybody would waste a single thought thinking about who or how opponents on end would have handed floyd a loss???? Might as well throw an 60yr old Hopkins in the mix too since he did mention fighting Mayweather at 160 at one point if that helps you in your journey. Floyd was right as far as i see your life heading...all your roads lead to floyd Mayweather!!
            He just fought. That's why I'm thinking about him. I think your panties are on too tight. Why so emotional?

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              #16
              Mayweather had fought knockout artists, no? he defeated Chico Corrales, Shane Mosley, Marcos Maidana X2, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez.

              Also, both Mosley and Cotto defeated Margarito and Maravilla Martinez right? or am I missing some context?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                That's a good point. I suppose so. But it still shows that Floyd didn't fight guys that had a physical advantage over him.
                Floyd is 26 inch arms

                margarito has longer reach due to broader shoulders

                but his actual arms weren’t as long

                cant hold being born with freakishly long arms against Floyd

                anyways a taller guy with longer reach and probably arms

                Erislandy Lara

                he would definitely try using his length

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by El Escorpion
                  Mayweather had fought knockout artists, no? he defeated Chico Corrales, Shane Mosley, Marcos Maidana X2, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez.

                  Also, both Mosley and Cotto defeated Margarito and Maravilla Martinez right? or am I missing some context?
                  That's what I'm talking about. You're going to triangle theory, which never works. You can't explain how a fight would turn out by triangle theory. Plus, there's an art and science to fighting a fighter at the high time, before the peak of his powers and when his powers start to wane. That was the criticism with the Pacquiao fight.

                  That's like saying that Duran lost to Hearns, therefore he can't possibly beat Leonard. It doesn't work that way.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

                    Floyd is 26 inch arms

                    margarito has longer reach due to broader shoulders

                    but his actual arms weren’t as long

                    cant hold being born with freakishly long arms against Floyd

                    anyways a taller guy with longer reach and probably arms

                    Erislandy Lara

                    he would definitely try using his length
                    Oh yeah, Lara. That would have been a good fight. But Lara wasn't really in any position to fight Floyd. I still would have loved to see that fight. Lara has a 76" reach too! Crazy.

                    Speaking of reach, I think it's better to measure from the shoulders. Like a person's wingspan. When you throw a punch, the shoulders are included. Shoulders contribute to how far you can punch, and that's why I don't like just measuring a person's arms.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                      That's what I'm talking about. You're going to triangle theory, which never works. You can't explain how a fight would turn out by triangle theory. Plus, there's an art and science to fighting a fighter at the high time, before the peak of his powers and when his powers start to wane. That was the criticism with the Pacquiao fight.

                      That's like saying that Duran lost to Hearns, therefore he can't possibly beat Leonard. It doesn't work that way.
                      So using the triangle theory is out of the equation due to how certain styles have different results with different fighters, example being Mayweather defeated Cotto but doesn't mean he is the one who accomplished defeating the opposition Cotto fought.

                      But what about the fact that he fought with prime opposition in Corrales, Cotto, Maidana X2 and Canelo? aren't they knockout artists?
                      Last edited by Malvado; 11-14-2022, 07:12 PM.

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