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  • wpink1
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    #181
    Originally posted by RayLeonard82
    You put down some of Floyd's victories after the fact but before the actual fights Diego Corrales Ricky Hatton, Marques were supposed to be tough opponents and he destroyed them with ease. Floyd would beat Mosley just as easy and there would be even more excuses. When he beats Manny with ease there will be another excuse.

    Paul Williams is the only fighter 147 to 154 who would have the best chance at beating Floyd cause he's 6-2 very active and most important takes a great shot. Paul gives SRL major problems also, probably beats him cause coming from behind with a late KO like against Hearns aint gonna work against Paul cause he's so well conditioned and takes a great shot.
    Again an idiot.... first off Corrales was a great win. He had 68 inch reach though.

    Hatton examine Hatton vs Collaze at 147. Then look at how he got ko'd by a featherweight IN TWO....

    Have you researched the Hearns Leonard I fight. Did you know the judges were put on notice because after the 1st when Ray stopped Hearns, the scorecards were read, and it was found out that rounds 6,7 were both only scored 10-9 rounds. Clearly 10-8 rounds, even the nevada state commission agreed, thus is the reason many believe Ray got a 10-8 round in the 2nd fight round 12, when it should have been a 10-9 round. Now idiot.If you score that fight the way it should have been, then it is a draw going into the 15th. You do the math.. Oh Idiot.. we are talking about hearns. Who is a top all time pound per pounder on all polls. Now who did Mayweather fight in anyones top 100, not top 20 or 50 but even top 100, pound per pound all time, who was not 36 years old and shot.

    Again Ray...you have not answered any questions...that is because you cant.

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    • wpink1
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      #182
      Perfect explanation about Floyd mayweather...

      http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=21388&more=1#

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      • hugh grant
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        #183
        Gotta go with SRL. If 36year old DLH can take PBF to a split decision i cant see how SRL woulndt beat PBF!
        I really cant! Of course PBF would like us to talk about him in terms of being on SRL level. But it aint happening. Only when he fights and beats the calibre of opponents SRL did can i even mention PBF with SRL

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          #184
          Originally posted by RayLeonard82
          You put down some of Floyd's victories after the fact but before the actual fights Diego Corrales Ricky Hatton, Marques were supposed to be tough opponents and he destroyed them with ease. Floyd would beat Mosley just as easy and there would be even more excuses. When he beats Manny with ease there will be another excuse.

          Paul Williams is the only fighter 147 to 154 who would have the best chance at beating Floyd cause he's 6-2 very active and most important takes a great shot. Paul gives SRL major problems also, probably beats him cause coming from behind with a late KO like against Hearns aint gonna work against Paul cause he's so well conditioned and takes a great shot.
          I love how this post basically confirms that despite the username RayLeonard82, you are a Floyd nuthugger. You're right about Corrales, but most people expected Mayweather to beat Hatton and EVERYONE knew Floyd would have an easy time with Marquez, with a z, not Marques. You also just said Paul Williams would have a chance against Mayweather because he can most importantly take a good shot, like Mayweather has any power at welterweight against other welterweights. Cotto and Mosley and Clottey would laugh off most Mayweather's punches, Sugar ray Leonard would do the same.

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          • RayLeonard82
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            #185
            Floyd decisions Cotto and Mosley. There not walking through his punches without getting busted out.

            The walk through Floyds shots and aggressive approach aint gonna work against Floyd. You will just lose a UD if you take the shots.

            I said Paul Williams would give problems because he is 6-2 with a long reach and is very very active. Height, Reach with activity. Shane and Cotto are not quick enough.

            My point has always been Floyd is 5 times quicker than Benitez and Ray went a tough 15 rounds with him and had a hard time dealing with Benitez defense and missed a lot of punches. The same would happen with Floyd with the difference between floyd is on a another level than Benitez. Much better athlete and his speed is far superior to Benitez.

            Watch the Carlos Palomino fight. Great defense but his hand speed and snap was good at best. Yet he gave SRL major problems.

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            • RayLeonard82
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              #186
              Benitez never hurt Ray or stopped Ray from being aggressive but it was still a tough tactical fight. Ray never hurt Hagler or even stunned him but it was still a tough fight.

              Floyd beats Ray in a tactical 12 round chess match. Similair fight to the Benitez fight with Ray getting nailed more.

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              • wpink1
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                #187
                Originally posted by RayLeonard82
                Floyd decisions Cotto and Mosley. There not walking through his punches without getting busted out.

                The walk through Floyds shots and aggressive approach aint gonna work against Floyd. You will just lose a UD if you take the shots.

                I said Paul Williams would give problems because he is 6-2 with a long reach and is very very active. Height, Reach with activity. Shane and Cotto are not quick enough.

                My point has always been Floyd is 5 times quicker than Benitez and Ray went a tough 15 rounds with him and had a hard time dealing with Benitez defense and missed a lot of punches. The same would happen with Floyd with the difference between floyd is on a another level than Benitez. Much better athlete and his speed is far superior to Benitez.

                Watch the Carlos Palomino fight. Great defense but his hand speed and snap was good at best. Yet he gave SRL major problems.
                He didnt give Ray major problems, he gave Ray problems as he should have since he is rated at one of the best pound per pound fighters ever. He was 38-0-1 when they fought and was seasoned, vs a unchampionship tested Ray.

                Now on one hand you will not discuss Castillo will you.. How he gave Mayweather all sorts of problems, then Dlh until DLH(nothing mayweather did) dlh got tired. So based on your analogy since Ray didn not steam roll Benetiz even though in his first championship fight he clearly overwhelmed him and beat him dropping him twice...in your analogy since mayweather is a better counter puncher then that means he beats Leonard based on Leoanrd beating a top pound per pounder (a better fighter than Mayweather has ever fought) and because ray who had been retired for 7 out of 10 years lost badly to norris,,,you add this up he was not ready for Mayweather...Right..That is your arguement.

                Lets see...Then if that is the case...Mayweather gets destroyed by Duran.. Since Mayweather looked horrible vs Castillo in the 1st fight, and in the rematch did not look that much better, and Duran peak is 100 x them fighter Castillo is. Imagine Duran being in that fight ..the same Duran the faced leonard. Mayweathr most likely is carried out of the ring.

                Lets look a little further based on your strategy..

                DLH.. In the DLH vs Mayweather fight... He showed how easily he could out jab Mayweather, and how when he had his legs, mayweather couldnot do anything. On at least 2 out of 3 judges scorecard DLH was up 5-2 after 7 rounds. This was a prime Mayweather..Lets see how DLH stacks up to Leonard.

                speed ADvantage Leonard
                Right handd advantage Leonard
                Defense Advantage Leonard
                Power advantage leoanrd
                Stamina..HUGE ADVANTAGE LEONARD
                Jab- equal
                ring generalship -adv leonard
                Heart in championship rounds..adv leonard
                reach - advantage leonard
                height = about even.
                experiend...= equal but you have to give ray the advantage as he beat top fighters vs dlh just fighting top fighters.

                So Rayleonard82....based on your crack head analogy if your not just sucking on mayweathers ****,,you have Ray leoanrd destroying Mayweather, since Dlh at 36 gave mayweather major problems whilehe had his stamina and Ray leonard is not going to tire down the stretch. You keep saying mayweather is going ot make Ray miss..Hmmm based off of what. Judah was not missing so much the 1st four round. Dlh landed his jab at will, and good body shots, and DLH has NO right hand,, SRL has a fantastic right hand and more reach and speed.

                I wonder what Mayweather would have done vs leonard that night of 5/5/07. Peak leoanrd vs that mayweather that fought vs DLH, would have resulted in Leonard being arrested for murder. You ****ing kiddingme.. Mayweather has 0 chance at beatin leonard. All he would do the entire night is lay on the ropes and try to bait Ray in and make him miss, and try to counter. However, idiot,,that is not enough to beat a all time top fighter who is not shot. It was not enough to beat DLH until he was tired, it was not enough to convingly beat Castillo either time, it was not enough to beat Judah the 1st four rounds.

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                • wpink1
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by RayLeonard82
                  Benitez never hurt Ray or stopped Ray from being aggressive but it was still a tough tactical fight. Ray never hurt Hagler or even stunned him but it was still a tough fight.

                  Floyd beats Ray in a tactical 12 round chess match. Similair fight to the Benitez fight with Ray getting nailed more.
                  Yeahh right while your masturbating to floyd in your dreams...Even his own father says at Welterweight jr probalby couldnot beat SRL, simply because itis the case of a great bigger man, vs great littler man. This is exactly out of Sr's mouth. I am trying to find this video. It was up on line about 6 months ago, somewhere

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                  • wpink1
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                    #189
                    where is Ray 82

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                    • Stickman
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by wpink1
                      where is Ray 82
                      I can applaud your willingness to argue your point, especially when you have the facts behind you and are knowledgable enough about the sport to present your case as well as you have.

                      But you're wasting your ****ing time. That guy is a Mayweather fan (the way he talks, he might even be sleeping with Floyd...) and is just spouting anything that comes to mind in an attempt to make FLoyd look as good as possible.

                      Mayweather shouldn't even be mentioned on the same page as Sugar Ray Leonard. Anybody who doesn't get that needs to, right fucking now, put the barrel against the roof of their mouths and PULL THE GODDAMNED TRIGGER.

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