Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard??

[SpArKeD-CoLd]

How do you lot see the fight going?

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Lets see Mayweather beat who at Welter.

Baldomir... not a top 20 fighter
Judah .... has been beaten by every fighter worth a dammm
DLH..... 36 has lost repeatedly before fighting Mayweather.
Hatton....Never ever looked good at welter, almost as got ko'd at welter the fight before. Barely won.
Marquez....never ever fought above 135....

So help me understand who has Mayweather beaten to even justify this ****** question.

Now just to address it. Mayweather is a defensive fighter, that uses his speed advantages, reach, and in the case of Marquez size advantage, and in the case of DLH , his stamina to outlast, in the case of Judah, smarts and toughness...

What advantage would he have offensively vs Leoanrd. 0.

Leonard is just as fast, throws better combinations, has the size and reach, was in just as good as shape, is just as smart (usually), hits harder, has fought much much much better competition (hearns, hagler, beneitz, Duran). Mayweather has fought no one near this level of competition at Welter.

Mayweather keeps trying to say duran moved up to beat leoanrd but he gets a hard time for fighting marquez.

Lets set the record straight. Duran is 25 times the fighter Marquez could dream of being. Marquez was clearly over sized vs a smaller Mayweather at welter. Meaning he is not capable of fighting effectivly at Welter. Duran not only was a good welter, but he went on to win titles at jr middle, and middle weight, after his wars with Ray.
Duran did not move up to fight ray. Duran moved up 2-3 years prior, and had 8 fights at welter before fighting ray, including a fight vs a top welter Carlos palomino. Thus Duran was a solid Welter before fighting Ray. No it was not his natural weight, but he had gotten accustomed to welter before fighting Ray, marquez was not even a solid 135 pounder, and then he had to move up an additional 2 weight classes to face Mayweather.

If Sugar Ray faced Mayweather, he would be charged for ******ation.

[PinoyZoi]

This is a ****** thread!!!! Of course...

Mayweather is the best!!!! He has 0 in loses!!

[bojangles1987]

At welterweight?

Leonard knocks Mayweather out late after toying with him from round 3 or 4 on.

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This is a ****** thread!!!! Of course...

Mayweather is the best!!!! He has 0 in loses!!

Who has he beat that is top notch. Every good fighter has 0 losses, until they face a top notch opponent. That is when we find out how good they are. Not facing Marquez, hattons. While these are good fighters, they are not Durans, Hagler, Hearns....

Mosly was once undefeated, and considered the best pound per pound. He even beat a PRIME DLH, not a 36 year old shot DLH. Guess what, he risked it vs a big good welter, not a lightweight. He risked if vs the best jr middle, someone who mayweather backed out of the fight with.

[Pullcounter]

How do you lot see the fight going?

SRL is more well rounded. floyd is all defense. it will be a close fight, but I think SRL will win.

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Leonard.

Leonard proved he could be a world class defensive fighter when he beat Benitez. Floyd hasn't fought anyone with the kind of heat that Leonard would bring thus far.

[Fulcrum29]

They're equally skilled with defensive credit going even more so to Floyd but unfortunately Floyd is not active enough and has long ago spurned the practice of throwing something very fundamental to winning boxing matches against top opposition: COMBINATIONS. Leonard sure as hell wouldn't dominate him but he would beat him by UD/SD simply based on work rate considering Leonard is 1. just as fast if not faster than Floyd (faster hand speed for sure) 2. Has at least equal but probably better stamina than Floyd 3. punches harder than Floyd.

[Doctor_Tenma]

They're equally skilled with defensive credit going even more so to Floyd but unfortunately Floyd is not active enough and has long ago spurned the practice of throwing something very fundamental to winning boxing matches against top opposition: COMBINATIONS. Leonard sure as hell wouldn't dominate him but he would beat him by UD/SD simply based on work rate considering Leonard is 1. just as fast if not faster than Floyd (faster hand speed for sure) 2. Has at least equal but probably better stamina than Floyd 3. punches harder than Floyd.

Very true and on top of that, SRL is BIGGER then Floyd.

[RayLeonard82]

Die hard Ray Leonard fan here but realistic. If you sit down and really break down when Ray fought a good defensive fighter in Wilfred Benitez it was somewhat of a struggle for Ray. Yes he had command of the fight, but Benitez made Ray miss often

Here is the difference. Floyd is much more in shape and has way better conditioning than Benitez had in that fight. Remember he only trained for like 2 weeks. If Floyd was fighting SRL i can picture him in the gym 24/7 and training his ass off and loving it. Floyd loves to train.

Another thing. Benitez had opportunities to counter when he made Ray miss but his punches were often wide a lot of the times and isn't nearly as quick a counterpuncher as Floyd. If that were Floyd and he made Ray miss he would nail Ray with quick short shots. There is a huge difference in the counterpunch speed between Floyd and Benitez and shortening of the punches. The straight right hand is there for Benitez if he had that in his arsenal.

I see this as a tossup.