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  • QueensburyRules
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    #91
    Originally posted by Hustle



    Floyd gets accused of ducking paul williams when he retired in 07. But Mosley, Pacquiao, and Cotto were all active and didn't fight Paul Williams.

    Yet I never heard them accused of ducking Paul williams.

    That proves Floyd gets hate that his contemporaries dont
    - - In 07 Manny fought Barrera and Jorge Solis at 130.

    Paul retired with a pending contract vs Canelo at Middleweight after a tragic motorcycle crash left him quadraplegic.

    When Paul at Welter, he and Marg the most ducked welters on the planet in part because l'l floydy wouldn't fight em.

    It's like sorta U was born yesterday yet again today...

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      #92
      Originally posted by Leicesterage
      Ultimately: whoever watched the Lara fight would have been convinced that Floyd Mayweather would have destroyed Paul Williams for the same reasons, and it wasn't a fight worth booking. That's not ducking - that's business.



      - - Nobody watches Lady Lara. They gag on maggots as he runs and stinks. Paul whooped him from pillar to post the reason Paul won that that fight.

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      • Hustle
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        #93
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        Its not about GGG. Its about Floyd doing things comparable to whats been done in the past, think Henry armstrong, Pac, Duran etc etc. Its about floyd doing the same things as the fighters he wants to be considered as good as.

        I mean if FLoyd didnt want to fight spence, thurman, brook, bradley, why not fight GGG what else you gonna do? Your not rematching Nelo or Pac so why not GGG? Do something people dont think Floyd can do because history proves it is hard to do. Just because Armstrong, Pac, RJJ are a few fighters in history who have been able to do it, dont mean Floyd can. Or even do something people dont think Floyd would try to do as floyd likes things in his favour or an equal playing field at the very least, why dont floyd suprise or shock people? People call floyd a ducker, cherry picker, why dont floyd disprove that and suprise a lot of people, rather than being who people think he is?
        Only 2 men in the history of the sport have won titles in more weight classes than Floyd and he beat those two men head 2 head. Actual facts

        So I'm loss when you say he should have done what fighters in the past did, when he clearly did.

        If you don't like Floyd. Thats 100% understandable. But when you say he aint do what those before him did. I can't respect it
        Last edited by Hustle; 07-25-2022, 12:44 PM.

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        • Combat Talk Radio
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          #94
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - Nobody watches Lady Lara. They gag on maggots as he runs and stinks. Paul whooped him from pillar to post the reason Paul won that that fight.
          ...you're definitely trolling.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Leicesterage

            Floyd then does a brief "retirement" to rest his body after the weight shifting.



            Oh so this is the new excuse for Floyd's two year "retirement". He was resting his body after weight shifting this is definitely a new one.

            ...and here Big Dunn, Larry, Iron Dan and all of the other card carrying Floyd Boys claimed his hands was hurting after two grueling fights with Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton.

            Did we mention that brief "retirement" lasted two years and the whole welterweight division basically beat each other up while Floyd was "weight shifting".

            Maybe he should have took two years off to weight shift, come back as a middleweight and back up all the s**t he talked about GGG:

            "Triple G, not being disrespectful, but he's straight up and down, no special effects," Mayweather said. "That's easy work."

            "I can barely make [1]47, how am I going to make 160?"

            Weight shift Floyd. Weight shift.


            Insert Floyd excuses here:

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            Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2022, 01:37 PM.

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            • M312
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              #96
              Originally posted by Hustle

              I see you deflected because you can't debate facts. So you switch the narrative to nothing is Floyd's fault and he's perfect even though neither one of those things came out of my mouth. I was very specific in what i said and its all facts that can be proven with video footage from those years.

              If you Give facts. Your a fanboy.
              If you Give facts. They switch the subject.
              If you give facts. They ignore them.

              You dudes prefer your own fantasy over actual facts.
              No mate, I just can't be arsed. You're not objective, only takes one post to see that. Pointless. You don't have to be so defensive about a boxer who will never care about you. Just be honest, it'll be OK.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Hustle


                He waited to who got old?

                Mosley turned the fight down in 2006. Thats not Floyd fault.

                De la hoya made Floyd wait til 2007. When Floyd was calling for the fight since 2002. That's not Floyd fault

                Cotto turned the fight down in 2005. That's not Floyd fault..

                Pacquiao turned the fight down in 2010 because of random drug testing which he later accepted. Thats not floyd fault


                These are all facts..
                Look don’t expect anyone in this thread that doesn’t like Floyd to admit the above.

                You will get deflective answers or some other garbage.

                When you have posters that blame Floyd for Manny turning down the $40 mil offer and that don’t hold Manny accountable when he went from being ready to go to getting stitches from his promoter’s son in law to avoid fighting Floyd before he went to jail, you pretty much know the deal.

                No poster has to like Floyd. Lying about what happened because you hate him is a bit ridiculous.

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                • djtmal
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  Look don’t expect anyone in this thread that doesn’t like Floyd to admit the above.

                  You will get deflective answers or some other garbage.

                  When you have posters that blame Floyd for Manny turning down the $40 mil offer and that don’t hold Manny accountable when he went from being ready to go to getting stitches from his promoter’s son in law to avoid fighting Floyd before he went to jail, you pretty much know the deal.

                  No poster has to like Floyd. Lying about what happened because you hate him is a bit ridiculous.
                  Hatton
                  Corrales
                  Ortiz
                  Guerrero
                  Madonna 2x
                  McGregor

                  These are the best guys Floyd beat in their prime.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by djtmal

                    Hatton
                    Corrales
                    Ortiz
                    Guerrero
                    Madonna 2x
                    McGregor

                    These are the best guys Floyd beat in their prime.
                    Manny
                    Shane
                    Oscar
                    Cotto
                    Castillo 2x
                    Canelo

                    These are all the guys Floyd beat who were significantly better at the age Floyd fought them then the people you listed above who according to you were prime.

                    Oddly, Manny, Shane and ODH all could’ve fought Floyd earlier in their careers but made excuses why they couldn’t.

                    Only a poster that smokes either of these men’s ****s would hold that against Floyd.
                    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-25-2022, 03:22 PM.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Manny
                      Shane
                      Oscar
                      Cotto
                      Castillo 2x
                      Canelo

                      These are all the guys Floyd beat who were significantly better at the age Floyd fought them then the people you listed above who according to you were prime.
                      and still....

                      Hatton
                      Corrales
                      Ortiz
                      Guerrero
                      Madonna 2x
                      McGregor

                      These are the best guys Floyd beat in their prime. Which is the bottom line and its the truth. The problem is it don't sound good enough, so you gotta find a way to give a consolation prize to all the past prime fighters that have a bigger name.
                      Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2022, 03:25 PM.

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