How good was Floyd?

[hugh grant]

Floyd is the best boxer since Leonard.

Which means that for alot of posters in this thread, Floyd is the best they ever saw.

There was a poll recently on boxing scene and SRL and Pac were tied as to who was the greater. FLoyd wouldnt be in that class. If Pac wasnt floyds best win, then people might be inclined to take Floyd a little more serious. Again, floyd has all the skills in the world but his reluctance to showcase those skills against people he wasnt supposed to beat will always hold floyd back. Nobody can say Floyd did things he wasnt supposed to.
Yes, beating Pac was good, but Floyd is supposed to beat someone who started 3 divisions lower and with 24 more fights under belt. THe nelo win was good, but floyds supposed to beat a green kid with potential who was drained, and who after beating the kid, nobody knew what would become of Nelo whether he was a flash in the pan, hypejob (who wasnt really a hypejob, as nobody was saying Nelo was special rather relatively unknown quantity) who was going to dissapear like so many of the fighters floyd fought.

[djtmal]

Hagler was a natural MW, and he made smaller men like 135 Duran and 147 SRL and Hearns to fight him. He only became lineal in one division. Why didn’t he try moving up to 175 to fight Michael Spinks?

He was undisputed mw champ for like an eternity and successfully defended all the belts 12x that should speak for itself.

Everybody was obliged to come up or down for that work.

After he lost to Srl he felt he was robbed, Srl welched on the rematch, and he retired.

Hagler left the sport on top what sense would it make to move up two weight classes and fight a guy who don't bring half the $ and prestige Srl did. .

Did that sink in yet his final fight he is fighting Srl a bona-fide top 10 all time great Spink was good but don't come close to that, and who did Floyd fight on his final fight a washed up career c fighter in Andre Berto who is lucky he cracks top 50 all time at any weight. The difference is night and day Floyd was cherrypicking to protect a 0 thats why he don't get much respect.

Even Hagler gave Floyd the thumbs down:

They say Floyd Mayweather vs Andre Berto will be free on CBS. Man they should PAY US to watch this mismatch! What an extremely bad fight.

— Marvin Hagler (@MarvinHagIer) July 24, 2015

RIP

[Comanche]

There was a poll recently on boxing scene and SRL and Pac were tied as to who was the greater. FLoyd wouldnt be in that class. If Pac wasnt floyds best win, then people might be inclined to take Floyd a little more serious. Again, floyd has all the skills in the world but his reluctance to showcase those skills against people he wasnt supposed to beat will always hold floyd back. Nobody can say Floyd did things he wasnt supposed to.
Yes, beating Pac was good, but Floyd is supposed to beat someone who started 3 divisions lower and with 24 more fights under belt. THe nelo win was good, but floyds supposed to beat a green kid with potential who was drained, and who after beating the kid, nobody knew what would become of Nelo whether he was a flash in the pan, hypejob (who wasnt really a hypejob, as nobody was saying Nelo was special rather relatively unknown quantity) who was going to dissapear like so many of the fighters floyd fought.

Do you know why Floyd is "supposed" to beat everyone?

[Comanche]

He was undisputed mw champ for like an eternity and successfully defended all the belts 12x that should speak for itself.

Everybody was obliged to come up or down for that work.

After he lost to Srl he felt he was robbed, Srl welched on the rematch, and he retired.

Hagler left the sport on top what sense would it make to move up two weight classes and fight a guy who don't bring half the $ and prestige Srl did. .

Did that sink in yet his final fight he is fighting Srl a bona-fide top 10 all time great Spink was good but don't come close to that, and who did Floyd fight on his final fight a washed up career c fighter in Andre Berto who is lucky he cracks top 50 all time at any weight. The difference is night and day thats why Floyd don't get much respect.

Even Hagler gave Floyd the thumbs down:

They say Floyd Mayweather vs Andre Berto will be free on CBS. Man they should PAY US to watch this mismatch! What an extremely bad fight.

— Marvin Hagler (@MarvinHagIer) July 24, 2015

Yeah fighting bigger guys isnt for everyone.

Respect.

[djtmal]

Yeah fighting bigger guys isnt for everyone.

Respect.

He fought his share of fighters who had height and reach on him. Speedy guys boxer they all got that work

Floyd did his best to avoid guys like that unless they were over the hill

[The Big Dunn]

There was a poll recently on boxing scene and SRL and Pac were tied as to who was the greater. FLoyd wouldnt be in that class. If Pac wasnt floyds best win, then people might be inclined to take Floyd a little more serious. Again, floyd has all the skills in the world but his reluctance to showcase those skills against people he wasnt supposed to beat will always hold floyd back. Nobody can say Floyd did things he wasnt supposed to.
Yes, beating Pac was good, but Floyd is supposed to beat someone who started 3 divisions lower and with 24 more fights under belt. THe nelo win was good, but floyds supposed to beat a green kid with potential who was drained, and who after beating the kid, nobody knew what would become of Nelo whether he was a flash in the pan, hypejob (who wasnt really a hypejob, as nobody was saying Nelo was special rather relatively unknown quantity) who was going to dissapear like so many of the fighters floyd fought.

Then why did you pick Manny to beat Floyd?

Youre the worst kind or pole smoking stan.

You created a list of guys Floyd needed to beat. You picked all of them to beat Floyd. He beat every single one of them.

Now years later, after you deleted that post and lied about making it, you pretend your opinion was all these guys were washed or easy to beat.

Floyd proved you wrong. Man up and admit it.

[LeOoze]

He was undisputed mw champ for like an eternity and successfully defended all the belts 12x that should speak for itself.

Everybody was obliged to come up or down for that work.

After he lost to Srl he felt he was robbed, Srl welched on the rematch, and he retired.

Hagler left the sport on top what sense would it make to move up two weight classes and fight a guy who don't bring half the $ and prestige Srl did. .

Did that sink in yet his final fight he is fighting Srl a bona-fide top 10 all time great Spink was good but don't come close to that, and who did Floyd fight on his final fight a washed up career c fighter in Andre Berto who is lucky he cracks top 50 all time at any weight. The difference is night and day Floyd was cherrypicking to protect a 0 thats why he don't get much respect.

Even Hagler gave Floyd the thumbs down:

They say Floyd Mayweather vs Andre Berto will be free on CBS. Man they should PAY US to watch this mismatch! What an extremely bad fight.

— Marvin Hagler (@MarvinHagIer) July 24, 2015

RIP

LOL. Hagler was 33 when he retired. Floyd was almost 39 when he fought Berto. Would it have been better if Floyd retired at 38 after he beat Pacquiao?

It's funny you say it doesn't make sense for Hagler to move up to his 3rd weight class to fight arguably the GOAT LHW for undisputed and prestige...yet you pushed for Floyd to fight GGG when he was almost 40, and when GGG didn't have 1/4th the prestige, belts, or money that Spinks did! You are a hypocrite!

[Comanche]

He fought his share of fighters who had height and reach on him. Speedy guys boxer they all got that work

Floyd did his best to avoid guys like that unless they were over the hill

Did he fight guys bigger then him?

Im just asking because Floyd did that regularly.

And as you said... they all got that work.

[djtmal]

LOL. Hagler was 33 when he retired. Floyd was almost 39 when he fought Berto. Would it have been better if Floyd retired at 38 after he beat Pacquiao?

It's funny you say it doesn't make sense for Hagler to move up to his 3rd weight class to fight arguably the GOAT LHW for undisputed and prestige...yet you pushed for Floyd to fight GGG when he was almost 40, and when GGG didn't have 1/4th the prestige, belts, or money that Spinks did! You are a hypocrite!

Hagler listed age was 33 he could have been as old as 36 with a total of 67 fights

Again his final fight was a top ten all time great in Srl and who did Floyd fight with almost 20 fights fewer?. Andre Berto c'mon man you not looking too good.

Oh I forgot his last official fight was actually against Conor McGregor a 0-0 mma fighter.

[djtmal]

Did he fight guys bigger then him?

Im just asking because Floyd did that regularly.

And as you said... they all got that work.

Please man Floyd only fought slow, flat footed, come forward short armed fighters that he could look good against. They may have weighed a few pounds more but that made them even slower.

None of those guys are top tier anything all time great thats why you have to make a big deal about Hagler moving up.

Hagler is an all time great fighting prime all time greats. Floyd is fighting paper champs who you can't remember two months after the fight is over its a big difference.