Canelo Alvarez vs James Toney

[KillaMane26]

And which version is that exactly? How does it differ to "Not ready for War" Toney?

I'm just saying if he comes prepared ready to fight another elite boxer and not just going though the motions.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm just saying if he comes prepared ready to fight another elite boxer and not just going though the motions.

...And which version is that exactly?

[War Room]

Who did Toney ever beat on Canelo's level in a clear manner?

Toeny came from an extremely competitive era and he fought ferociously.

• Sosa
• Nunn
• McCallum
• Barkley
• Jirov
• Holyfield

All those guys torture Canelo.

[IronDanHamza]

Toeny came from an extremely competitive era and he fought ferociously.

• Sosa
• Nunn
• McCallum
• Barkley
• Jirov
• Holyfield

All those guys torture Canelo.

No doubt about that. He fought everyone and did his best.

And I agree that Nunn, McCallum, and Jirov beat Canelo more than likely.

Sosa of course doesn't, and neither does that past it Barkley Toney fought.

Toney arguably lost to Sosa and McCallum anyway, and was totally schooled by Nunn for the majority of the fight. So there's that.

[Roadblock]

Id go for Toney he was a very talented guy at MW that went and stood toe to toe with HWs proving his durability, Toney was real and would not fear Canelo in any way at all, I think his boxing skills would be too much for Canelo.

[GhostofDempsey]

Oh yeah, good one.

Toney was miles behind on all 3 scorecards, rightfully so as he was totally outboxed for the entire fight.

One judge having it 9-1, the closest being 7-3, which, was generous to say the least.

If you think Toney looked good against Micheal Nunn you live in a dream world. He looked absolutely terrible.

Same against Johnson.

It was a hometown scorecard for Nunn. You obviously didn’t watch it or you’d see Toney ducking Nunn’s punches from round three forward. Countering his jabs with right hands. It’s right there for anyone to watch. That Toney schools Canelo all day long.

[Sun_Tzu]

Toney obviously.

[IronDanHamza]

It was a hometown scorecard for Nunn. You obviously didn’t watch it or you’d see Toney ducking Nunn’s punches from round three forward. Countering his jabs with right hands. It’s right there for anyone to watch. That Toney schools Canelo all day long.

Comedy.

Toney was clearly well behind on the scorecards and rightfully so.

He looked terrible all the way up to the KO. Even Toney's biggest of deluded fanatics can acknowledge that.

[!! Shawn]

Canelo didn’t make bivol miss that’s for sure.....Toney was natural in defence and I hardly ever saw him get clocked by single punches and he could do that the entire 12 rounds .....when canelo does it he is on top and coasting but when his stamina go’s his defence disintegrates such as his late rounds with golovkin and especially bivol.
Toney beats canelo no question

Toney is the anomaly in boxing history, the defensive master, with one of the best chins of all time.

So even if you to hit him, and you did was sign yourself up for a worse beating. The fact that Toney was able to be as successful as he was coming in so frequently in such objectively terrible condition is quite remarkable.

Canelo wouldn't have a chance. Canelo would be out slicked, in a boxing match, and Toney has more dog in him if Canelo wanted to make it a fight.

[KillaMane26]

...And which version is that exactly?

Look.... I favor Toney over Canelo lol. I take it you disagree.