Lomachenko Versus Kambosos, Says Mauricio Sulaiman ...

[4truth]

All things considered, I hope this is the case. Loma has the least shelf life remaining and is also the most likely to actually fight the remaining contenders at 135.

If he wins, I mean.

[IronDanHamza]

How can he be the mandatory challenger when the rules specifically state that it's voluntary? How is that possible? You saw the rule, right? You can check it right now, if you want. I posted the link above.

How can he be mandatory when the rules say voluntary? When the rules have said voluntary for years and years? How is it possible?

I thought the WBC said the Interim Titles are final eliminators I.e Mandatory challengers.

Dillian Whyte vs Oscar Rivas for example. Dillian became interim after that, and also mandatory.

[Cypocryphy]

I thought the WBC said the Interim Titles are final eliminators I.e Mandatory challengers.

Dillian Whyte vs Oscar Rivas for example. Dillian became interim after that, and also mandatory.

I thought so too but then I looked at the rules, and the rules say otherwise. Here's the rules for interim champions in the WBC:

18 In its sole discretion, the WBC shall subsequently determine the timing and terms of any bout between a Champion and Interim Champion to determine a sole champion in the division, provided, however, that an Interim Champion shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, or entitled to greater share of proceeds of any purse offer beyond that of a challenger, without a specific prior written order to that effect from the WBC President or his designee.

For the avoidance of doubt, a WBC Interim World Championship shall be considered a true WBC World title for all purposes, other than with respect to a bout versus the actual World Champion, absent any order to the contrary from the WBC in its sole discretion. See rules.

You can look up the rules. I posted the link in the quote. It says NEVER DEEMED A MANDATORY CHALLENGER. And NEVER means NEVER. The only way to make that fight with the WBC champion is to petition the WBC, and then they rule on whether they want to determine one champion in the division. Had Devin simply stayed in the #1 position, then it would have been different, like it was for Campbell who was the mandatory challenger for Mikey Garcia.

I'm not making this up. Sulaiman has said this too on numerous occasions. He said that Haney petitioned to fight Santiago when he could have petitioned to fight Loma. It's on video.

[IronDanHamza]

I thought so too but then I looked at the rules, and the rules say otherwise. Here's the rules for interim champions in the WBC:
You can look up the rules. I posted the link in the quote. It says NEVER DEEMED A MANDATORY CHALLENGER. And NEVER means NEVER. The only way to make that fight with the WBC champion is to petition the WBC, and then they rule on whether they want to determine one champion in the division. Had Devin simply stayed in the #1 position, then it would have been different, like it was for Campbell who was the mandatory challenger for Mikey Garcia.

I'm not making this up. Sulaiman has said this too on numerous occasions. He said that Haney petitioned to fight Santiago when he could have petitioned to fight Loma. It's on video.

Have you got a source for Suliaman saying he isn't/wasn't the mandatory challenger?

I'd be interested to read that.

[Cypocryphy]

Have you got a source for Suliaman saying he isn't/wasn't the mandatory challenger?

I'd be interested to read that.

Yeah. I'll have to find it. I should have saved it or bookmarked it. I'll definitely post it but it might be tomorrow if I have to search a lot. It was Sulaiman and Bill Haney talking.

[Lomadeaux]

I don’t have anything against Loma he’s just not that interesting to me. There’s no pre fight hype when he fights. He’s a great fighter but he bores me is all.

Dude I stopped watching "pre fight hype" when I was a kid.

[Lomadeaux]

Do you live in Bizarro World?

Haney was the WBC mandatory and Lomachenko's team requested Franchise Champion status so they wouldn't have to fight him.

In real life we know there is zero chancce that Lomachenko will fight Haney, because that is what actually happened once already,

You have to stop finding boxing news on CNN dude.

Why the hell would Loma fight someone who doesn't have a title when he's trying to unify the division? You guys say real dumb ****. This internet world mentality is embarrassing. Loma beats Kambosos the next guy he fights is whoever else has a belt....

[Cypocryphy]

Have you got a source for Suliaman saying he isn't/wasn't the mandatory challenger?

I'd be interested to read that.

Okay. I got you the original. It's buried in here, and it's a long conversation. Bill Haney joins too. You can hear all in the discussion.

[buddyr]

Poor reporting from the BBC?

And from BoxingScene too?


"In 2019, Haney was the mandatory challenger to Lomachenko's WBC title.

Lomachenko, in what became a controversial move, made a request to the WBC to make him the "Franchise" champion. "

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-...%22%20champion.

people don't want to accept the facts that are presented to them. Any other time they are posting news articles, from the same sources, now these sources are bs . lol. They know it's the truth, but want to continue playing the fool like most of us don't know any better.

[ShoulderRoll]

You have to stop finding boxing news on CNN dude.

Why the hell would Loma fight someone who doesn't have a title when he's trying to unify the division? You guys say real dumb ****. This internet world mentality is embarrassing. Loma beats Kambosos the next guy he fights is whoever else has a belt....

Lomachenko could have unified the division without dropping the WBC belt.

But he didn't want a fight with Devin Haney looming afterwards. So his team requested Franchise Champion status, that way he would never have to defend against Haney.

I hope Lomachenko doesn't get the Kambosos fight, he already got his chance at the belts and screwed Devin out of his chance.