Comments Thread For: Haney On WBC Lightweight Title Confusion: They Can Say What They Want To Say, It's Still Disputed

[Street]

Why are people confused? The WBC belts rank as follows;

1. The big dog belt is the WBC Champion Belt - Haney

2. Franchise Belt - was Lopez and isn't transferable. Can only be designated by votes.

3. Interim Champ Belt

4. Silver Belt

5. International Belt

[WBC WBA IBF]

Ok, so who's the franchise welterweight champion? Who's the heavyweight champion. It has to be awarded first. That's not a world title. Wake up.

Just like the WBA doesn't have a super world champion in every division, the WBC doesn't have a franchise world champion in every division.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Why are people confused? The WBC belts rank as follows;

1. The big dog belt is the WBC Champion Belt - Haney

2. Franchise Belt - was Lopez and isn't transferable. Can only be designated by votes.

This is false. The WBC has changed the rules for Franchise. It is now a world championship that is on the line whenever the champion fights. The Franchise world championship is the WBC's equivalent of the WBA's super world championship. Haney doesn't have the big dog belt. He has the WBC's secondary world title, just like Tank Davis has the WBA's secondary world title.

[WBC WBA IBF]

You keep saying all four organizations recognize Kambosos as undisputed. But actually only the WBC do. Your making stuff up there. Go do some research.

I never said all four organizations recognize Kambosos as undisputed. I said all four organizations recognize Kambosis as their top tier world champion and therefore he's undisputed. All four organizations agree that he's the world champion. There's no dispute.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Then Top Rank requested Loma be made franchise and he lost his world title at that point. Coincidentally at that point the rules suddenly changed. The non transferable title suddenly became transferable. And a unification suddenly became ( in the opinion of Mauricio Suliman ) an undisputed fight.

Correct. The rules changed and now the Franchise world championship is the WBC's top belt, just like the WBA has the Super world championship.

[famicommander]

Correct. The rules changed and now the Franchise world championship is the WBC's top belt, just like the WBA has the Super world championship.

So if Kambosos beats Haney what happens to the WBC belt?

I bet Kambosos becomes recognized as WBC Champion and we never hear about the Franchise designation again.

[AboutBillions]

In my Opinion I think fighters should forget about the titles now. Just do it for the Money and Big fights. Titles have long become a Joke.

[WBC WBA IBF]

So if Kambosos beats Haney what happens to the WBC belt?

I bet Kambosos becomes recognized as WBC Champion and we never hear about the Franchise designation again.

It probably depends on what Kambosos wants. I don't think the WBC would take away his Franchise world championship against his will, but I do think the WBC regrets this whole Franchise mess and wants it to go away ASAP. Especially now that the US government threatened to shut down the WBA for having multiple world titles.

[Rodtang]

Just like the WBA doesn't have a super world champion in every division, the WBC doesn't have a franchise world champion in every division.

But they do. Or they have had as its changing because of the consolidation process. So your factually inaccurate again. I'm not going to explain the consolidation process to you. You really have to do some proper research. Or just follow boxing regular, because dipping in and out of the sport and trying to fill up the gaps with guesswork or what suits your agenda, is clearly not working for you. Haney vs Kambosos for real undisputed, bring it on.

[Rodtang]

I never said all four organizations recognize Kambosos as undisputed. I said all four organizations recognize Kambosis as their top tier world champion and therefore he's undisputed. All four organizations agree that he's the world champion. There's no dispute.

They don't. They agree he's franchise champion, and therefore not undisputed. We're are you getting this information that they " agree that he's the world champion ".
Because as I've previously stated to you, that if you go check the website's of the WBA, WBO and IBF, they all clearly list the WBC WORLD CHAMPION, as DEVIN HANEY. NOT George Kambosos. In fact George Kambosos they don't list at all. The reason for that is that he is the franchise champion. The franchise champion is meaningless to them. It's only you that's seeing this and let's be honest as your not getting it from official sources, your making it up. Because it suits your agenda. FACTS.