Comments Thread For: Haney On WBC Lightweight Title Confusion: They Can Say What They Want To Say, It's Still Disputed

[Rodtang]

The IBF says Kambosos is their World Champion, the highest honor they offer. The WBO says Kambosos is their World Champion, the highest honor they offer. The WBA says Kambosos is their Super World Champion, the highest honor they offer. The WBC says Kambosos is their Franchise World Champion, the highest honor they offer. All four organizations recognize Kambosos as their supreme champion. Tank & Devin are secondary world champions. Kambosos is the highest world champion of all four orgs. Meaning there is no dispute between the orgs over who the champion of the world is. All four orgs agree Kambosos is the champion.

Franchise champion. Not franchise world champion. Your making that up. And its not the highest they offer. Its a selected honour they offer as its not available in all weights for all fighters. Ther are 2 undisputed champs right now, neither have a franchise belt. Your stubbornness won't accept facts.

[Rodtang]

Yes, which their rules allow them to do.




This is false. The bodies have never gotten to decide what undisputed means. Undisputed has always meant you are recognized as champion by all of the major organizations. All four organizations say Kambosos is the champion, therefore he's undisputed.




This is false. All three other orgs have allowed their titles to be unified with the Franchise World Championship and Franchise World Champion Juan Estrada has remained listed in the published WBA, IBF and WBO ratings despite having not held the WBC world championship since ten months ago. If the WBA, IBF and WBO didn't recognize the Franchise World Championship, they would have stopped listing Estrada in their ratings.

[gamesworn]

I can't believe people who are basically NSB Residents (24/7) here, still considers WBA Regular Title and that BS WBC Lighweight title that Haney holds, are both legit champion titles. lol
WBA Super = WBC Franchise
WBA Regular = WBC (The one that Haney Holds right now)

I can understand casuals getting confused with all the WBC/WBA bull**** franchise/super titles, but NSB residents too, come on, you need to be better than that.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Franchise champion. Not franchise world champion. Your making that up.

No, I'm not making it up. The belt itself says World Champion and the WBC sanctioned the fight as a world title fight. Teofimo has shown the certificate sent by the WBC for sanctioning the Lomachenko fight and it says "Lightweight Franchise World Title."

[2Slick]

The franchise champion is a nice way of saying I got stripped of my title for ducking my mandatory. Starting with canelo and charlo. Then loma and Haney. Anyone who supports that shenanigans is a clown and is everything what’s wrong with the sport of boxing

[gamesworn]

The franchise champion is a nice way of saying I got stripped of my title for ducking my mandatory. Starting with canelo and charlo. Then loma and Haney. Anyone who supports that shenanigans is a clown and is everything what’s wrong with the sport of boxing

You know whats even more clown than that? Winning championship title without actually fighting for it. Please stop already

[2Slick]

You know whats even more clown than that? Winning championship title without actually fighting for it. Please stop already

Then man up and fight your mandatory and don’t petition for a made up franchise title. Clown.

[gamesworn]

Then man up and fight your mandatory and don’t petition for a made up franchise title. Clown.

Idk what you're talking about, i hate all these bull**** titles, BUT the fact is Loma got his title by winning it in a fight while Haney just got his for free. Do you consider Haney as Champion?

[2Slick]

Idk what you're talking about, i hate all these bull**** titles, BUT the fact is Loma got his title by winning it in a fight while Haney just got his for free. Do you consider Haney as Champion?

I wouldn’t say for free because Haney did work his way to mandatory just to have Loma forfeit the belt. Usyk got his mandatory shot at Joshua and look what happened. Kambosos got his mandatory shot against Lopez and look what happened. Kambosus should fight Haney next and clear up the mess of this division caused by the wbc. As of now there’s still a dispute over undisputed because no one will fight Haney

[gamesworn]

I wouldn’t say for free because Haney did work his way to mandatory just to have Loma forfeit the belt. Usyk got his mandatory shot at Joshua and look what happened. Kambosos got his mandatory shot against Lopez and look what happened. Kambosus should fight Haney next and clear up the mess of this division caused by the wbc. As of now there’s still a dispute over undisputed because no one will fight Haney

You didn't even answer my question. Smh Making your way to mandatory doesn't mean you deserve the Championship title for free. Its free because he got it by doing nothing.
Haney is not legit champion. Loma was the champion, passed to Lopez, then Kambosos.


You can complain all you want about the Champion ducking Mandatory or whatever you want to called it. But Haney still didn't win it in a fight.