Comments Thread For: Haney On WBC Lightweight Title Confusion: They Can Say What They Want To Say, It's Still Disputed

[M312]

Not anymore. The Franchise world championship is now a traditional world championship that can be won and lost, just like the WBA's super world championship.

No it's not. You've just totally made that up.

It still has no mandatories, it still can be carried between weights. Canelos still can't be lost.

Are you really trying to justify an organisations meaningless belts?!

Ffs, a new low of 'fan'.

Just hold your hands up and say you didn't understand. Please, never try to stick up for the WBC again, it's pure cringe.

[WBC WBA IBF]

No it's not. You've just totally made that up.

No, the WBC totally made that up.

It still has no mandatories, it still can be carried between weights. Canelos still can't be lost.

No, it can't be carried between weights anymore. Also, Canelo isn't franchise champion anymore. When franchise was changed to being a world championship instead of an honorary award, Canelo's franchise designation was removed from the ratings.

Are you really trying to justify an organisations meaningless belts?!

I'm not justifying anything. Just speaking facts. I hate the franchise title and I hate the super title, but Kambosos has them and he's the undisputed champion.

Ffs, a new low of 'fan'.

I'm not a fan.

[M312]

No, the WBC totally made that up.




No, it can't be carried between weights anymore. Also, Canelo isn't franchise champion anymore. When franchise was changed to being a world championship instead of an honorary award, Canelo's franchise designation was removed from the ratings.




I'm not justifying anything. Just speaking facts. I hate the franchise title and I hate the super title, but Kambosos has them and he's the undisputed champion.




I'm not a fan.

From 3 days ago:

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...canelo--162422

“The winner of Makabu vs. Mchunu will go against against Canelo. There are many fights that are already in the pipeline and that is one of them. It is important to make Makabu and Mchunu known, known to the international boxing community at these levels. They are known in Africa and Russia, but we have to see them on a card and thus heat up a fight [with Canelo]," Sulaiman said.
"The WBC will always support Canelo, he is our Franchise Champion, which allows him to seek any type of challenge and not hindering him is a virtue with that designation. [As Franchise Champion] he has an open path to seek alternative paths and we are going to support him unconditionally."


Stop being so cringe.

You keep completely making stuff up.

Just stop now. If you don't know don't comment, and certainly don't just make things up. Just makes you look silly.

[WBC WBA IBF]

"The WBC will always support Canelo, he is our Franchise Champion, which allows him to seek any type of challenge and not hindering him is a virtue with that designation. [As Franchise Champion] he has an open path to seek alternative paths and we are going to support him unconditionally."


Stop being so cringe.

You keep completely making stuff up.

Like I already said, I'm not making anything up. The WBC is making it up. Check the official ratings yourself:

https://wbcboxing.com/mailing/2021/ratings_pdf/WBC_RATINGS_NOVEMBER_2021.pdf

Canelo is no longer listed as Franchise Champion. The WBC may still be giving him the leeway of the original "honorary award," but now that the Franchise World Championship is a traditional world championship that is contested in the ring, Canelo's Franchise distinction was removed.

[Rodtang]

David Morrell and Tank Davis are dis*****g it.

Lmao, your crazy. They're fighting hub cap thieves.

[Rodtang]

The Franchise world title is the same as the Super world title now. Tank & Devin's belts are irrelevant. Neither holds the top title of their organization.

But it isn't, Except in your head. See your looking at websites and seeing the franchise title above and lining it up across from the super. That's nonsense The WBA don't recognize the franchise, the same as the bodies don't recognize the regular belts for unifications, including the WBC. Keep kidding yourself on. Most of us know the truth.

[WBC WBA IBF]

But it isn't, Except in your head. See your looking at websites and seeing the franchise title above and lining it up across from the super. That's nonsense The WBA don't recognize the franchise, the same as the bodies don't recognize the regular belts for unifications, including the WBC. Keep kidding yourself on. Most of us know the truth.

Teofimo has shown his official WBC world championship certificates on social media. The WBC absolutely treats the Franchise world championship as their equivalent of the Super world championship now.

The WBA, IBF and WBO are allowing their titles to be unified with the Franchise world championship, so they absolutely don't consider it a secondary world title.

[Rodtang]

Teofimo has shown his official WBC world championship certificates on social media. The WBC absolutely treats the Franchise world championship as their equivalent of the Super world championship now.

The WBA, IBF and WBO are allowing their titles to be unified with the Franchise world championship, so they absolutely don't consider it a secondary world title.

Ok, so who's the franchise welterweight champion? Who's the heavyweight champion. It has to be awarded first. That's not a world title. Wake up.

[Rodtang]

Kambosos beat the man who beat the man. Haney didn't. I agree the super titles and franchise titles are a joke and have made the sport a mess. Hopefully both will be phased out soon. But until then, Kambosos is undisputed champion of the world, recognized by all four organizations as the ultimate champion.

The man that beat the man is lineal. You keep saying all four organizations recognize Kambosos as undisputed. But actually only the WBC do. Your making stuff up there. Go do some research.

[Rodtang]

It absolutely is the same.




Originally "Franchise" was an honorary award for just one person. The WBC is allowed to decide later to change "Franchise" to a world championship of higher esteem than the regular world championship. We don't have to like it. I certainly hope it goes away, but until it doe8s, if the WBC says Kambosos is their top champion and undisputed, then he's undisputed.

Initially it was. Then Top Rank requested Loma be made franchise and he lost his world title at that point. Coincidentally at that point the rules suddenly changed. The non transferable title suddenly became transferable. And a unification suddenly became ( in the opinion of Mauricio Suliman ) an undisputed fight. I wonder how much that opinion cost. Only Bob and Mauricio know that. Oh and it cost Devin Haney a lot of besmirching of his reputation, which he didn't deserve, as he earned the right to fight Loma before Lopez.