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So you just agreed they changed THEIR rules. But they have no authority to change the whole undisputed picture in boxing that affects the other governing bodies. This is a key fact your not understanding. If the WBC franchise title ( not franchise world title as you keep making up ) is to become transferable, that's their decision. But they don't get to decide it's part of undisputed. That's for all four bodies to decide. The other 3 don't accept that designstory title as the world title. Mauricio Suliman has even said DEVIN HANEY is the WBC world champion. Kambosos is franchise. So even though Suliman is proclaiming that Kambosos js undisputed,he's contradicting and lying and trying to make decisions hes not entitled to and clearly above his pay grade. It's like the USA deciding for NATO all on their own without the blessing of the other member nations. It can't happen. I've been trying to help you here but I'm done now. Boxing is not for you. Try and find a sport you can understand please.
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It seems that this issue boils down to why Loma received the franchise designation instead of facing Devin Haney, who was his mandatory.
Each fighter has been accused of ducking the other. My understanding is that Loma asked for the franchise designation and thus Haney was elevated by default. Not because he wanted to be but because he was already interim and Loma wanted to go in another direction.Last edited by whollisboxing; 12-05-2021, 07:18 AM.Comment
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Are you still seriously spamming this thread with this nonsense?
Just stop. I'm not sure whether you don't understand, or you're just bored and want to argue for the sake of it.
I just showed you that Canelo is still franchise champion, which you denied. And you're response is now that they must be giving him leeway?
Is there something wrong with you?
You are wrong on all accounts and are a flat out liar.
Embarrassing.
I'm done, continue spamming trying to convince everyone of your lies, what a weirdo.Last edited by M312; 12-05-2021, 08:01 AM.Comment
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No rules have changed. The WBC's rules are readily available and they haven't changed with regard to Franchise Boxers.
In fact, they've already gone against them in awarding it to Lopez and Kambosos.
You seem to have latched onto the WBC declaring Kambosos as Undisputed on Instagram. Well of course they do, to say anything else would highlight their own dumb actions. At the same time they have Haney as their Champion.
It's a mess that even they can't rationalise, and yet you're here claiming that you've got the answers that they can't provide.Comment
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The IBF says Kambosos is their World Champion, the highest honor they offer. The WBO says Kambosos is their World Champion, the highest honor they offer. The WBA says Kambosos is their Super World Champion, the highest honor they offer. The WBC says Kambosos is their Franchise World Champion, the highest honor they offer. All four organizations recognize Kambosos as their supreme champion. Tank & Devin are secondary world champions. Kambosos is the highest world champion of all four orgs. Meaning there is no dispute between the orgs over who the champion of the world is. All four orgs agree Kambosos is the champion.Comment
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Yes, which their rules allow them to do.
This is false. The bodies have never gotten to decide what undisputed means. Undisputed has always meant you are recognized as champion by all of the major organizations. All four organizations say Kambosos is the champion, therefore he's undisputed.But they have no authority to change the whole undisputed picture in boxing that affects the other governing bodies. This is a key fact your not understanding. If the WBC franchise title ( not franchise world title as you keep making up ) is to become transferable, that's their decision. But they don't get to decide it's part of undisputed. That's for all four bodies to decide.
This is false. All three other orgs have allowed their titles to be unified with the Franchise World Championship and Franchise World Champion Juan Estrada has remained listed in the published WBA, IBF and WBO ratings despite having not held the WBC world championship since ten months ago. If the WBA, IBF and WBO didn't recognize the Franchise World Championship, they would have stopped listing Estrada in their ratings.The other 3 don't accept that designstory title as the world title.
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You're wrong. The rules document on the WBC's website is only updated once every couple years and hasn't been updated since the changes to the Franchise world championship.
They didn't go against anything. They changed the rule.In fact, they've already gone against them in awarding it to Lopez and Kambosos.
Teofimo provided the answers when he publicly showed his certifications proving his fight vs. Lomachenko was sanctioned by the WBC as a world championship fight for the Franchise version of the WBC world championship.It's a mess that even they can't rationalise, and yet you're here claiming that you've got the answers that they can't provide.Comment
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