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it's only disputed bc of the wbc. how in the fook can somebody win a franchise belt dedicated to one specific guy? and now the franchise belt is up for grabs like it only takes one victory to earn it. wbc ******. With all the exceptions they make they just had to stand on uneven footing with Loma and exchange his wbc belt for a franchise strap bc he chose to pursue the ibf champ instead of the mandatory. and how can you be a franchise champ without the main strap. Lopez should've been undisputed, he beat Commey for the ibf and then beat the man who won the other 3 belts.Comment
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Lots of boxers become champion by e-mail these days. Jermall Charlo is in the same position. I'm not saying its right, but it's the fault of the WBC, not Haney. He done everything asked, everything he possibly could to get the divisions top guy and then got shafted. And he payed for it too.So why is he getting a hard time. You see, if he had done what Ryan Garcia has done, by becoming mandatory and ducking the champ, then I get it. But the Champ ducked him. Not only that, his world title was removed and now Haney has it, which means the division is still awaiting its first undisputed in the four belt era.Comment
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See before you come out with nonsensical statements, go do some fact checking. If you check the other 3 organizations websites, they all recognise Devin Haney, as the WBC world champion. They don't recognize George Kambosos or Teofimo Lopez before him as the holder of that belt or undisputed champion. You see the problem is that Mauricio took it upon himself to proclaim that franchise title as part of undisputed. At no time did he consult the other 3 organizations. I'm guessing because he knew what the answer would be. They don't accept it. If Kambosos vacates the belts tomorrow, will the WBC order 2 fighters to fight for the vacant franchise title? I think you know as well as I do that they won't. Because it's not a world title. It's a special designation. And its not part of undisputed. That's why Canelo blew it off at 168. And as a result Mauricio said that then he would have to do a mandatory against Yildrim. Canelo said no problem. Because it meant he was not going to be hindered for undisputed. Facts.Comment
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Nobody is dis*****g that Devin Haney is the WBC world champion. However, the WBC Franchise world champion is ranked above the WBC world champion in the WBC ratings. Kambosos is the WBC's top champoion. Kambosos is recognized by all four orgs as their top champion, therefore he's undisputed. Tank Davis & Devin Haney have second tier belts.
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Nobody is dis*****g that the Franchise title is ranked higher than the WBC World champion, in the WBC world rankings. And that Kambosos is indeed the proud owner of that belt. But the dispute is that, that belt is not the world title. Therefore it's not part of the undisputed world chiompionship. If the other 3 organizations recognize that belt as their world title, and if it becomes available to all fighters in all weight classes, then it would be. But they don't. And it isn't. But hey if that ever happens, you can let me know. Although most probably I'll know about it first and be letting you know. Or maybe if the other 3 organizations bring out their franchise titles then we can have an undisputed franchise champ. But they won't. So for now it's the Franchise protection designation. To bypass hard tough mandatories you don't believe you can win, to pad out that career. But hey I enjoy educating people, so if your still struggling, don't worry I won't give up on you.Comment
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And let's not forget that by the very definition of the word, that its not undisputed. Why? Because we're all dis*****g it. Why is Josh Taylor and Canelo undisputed? Because nobody is dis*****g it. Do they have WBC franchise titles? No they don't. They have WBC world titles. So how can they be of the same stature of George Kambosos, when the WBC belts they have are different? You say the Franchise title is the WBC's top title and part of undisputed. So then are you saying that Josh Taylor and Canelo are not undisputed? You can't have it both ways. And neither can Mauricio Sulieman. Which is why the other 3 organizations don't recognize Kambosos, or Lopez before him as undisputed. Sulieman is talking out of his arse. Because it suits him and f**k what anyone else thinks. And that's why that man is boxings cancer. Josh Taylor is undisputed. Canelo is undisputed. Kambosos isn't. And I have no gripe against Kambosos. I hope he fights the Haney/ Diaz winner next so the division gets its first undisputed of the four belt era. The sport needs it. I like all three fighters and may the best man win. I'm more in favour of Haney and Kambosos, as those 2 are the only 2 Iightweights in out there right now of the top boys, that will truly fight everyone.Comment
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I get why you want it to be for undisputed. And it should have been. But Top Rank messed it up by petitioning for the franchise title for Loma. They didn't want Loma to fight Haney, and instead wanted him to fight Lopez. That's fine. But there is a procedure for circumventing that mandatory, which was in place before any damn franchise title existed. They should have filed for an exemption, in order to make an undisputed fight. The WBC would have had no problem with this. But the the winner and new undisputed champion would then immediately have to do the Haney mandatory. Not only that but they would have had the Kambosos mandatory also, meaning that right away a belt would have to be given up. That, and the fact that Top Rank just want no part of Haney for their fighters, had Top Rank pull a **** move in requesting the franchise title to avoid Haney and try to promote the idea that they would have an undisputed champion. They should have just filed for exemption or accepted that Loma had a mandatory obligation, but no, they tried to be sneaky about it and it backfired.Comment
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