Who had the better career Golovkin or Ward?

[Boxing-1013]

if you are counting losses then theres hundred better than GGG.
the desperate sound of someone adding murray and brook to their list when they worked out theres nothing left to add after novice derev, never champ jacobs and worst champ lemieux.
murray the level of dawson froch kessler...enough already.

I don't think your analytical skills are very good. You've never made much sense with your autistic sounding stuff on GGG. You just repeat the same weird lines over and over again lol.

As far as 'losses' any sane person would say Ward had more losses in those fights than GGG. We all saw him beat Canelo twice. We all saw Ward lose to Kovalev in the first fight. And the 2nd fight was iffy as far as whether he should have been DQd or at least penalized. I mean you definitely can't end a fight on low shots.

Only close fight GGG has ever had after 12 rounds was vs Derevy. And he probably won that one too. Not a bad career at all. Imo more impressive than Ward's, who was much more protected.

That's just how I see it. You seem to have a different opinion. I don't think you're very intelligent, no offense. Have a good day buddy.

[Boxing-1013]

tis a joke, Smelieux never even defended his vacant title. GGG's peak acheivement win was beating up a haircut model.

His peak achievement is that the whole world saw him beat Canelo, twice.

[Larry the boss]

His peak achievement is that the whole world saw him beat Canelo, twice.

I live in the world, and I didnt see it, nor did the judges judging the fights..cant just make up wins man

[Boxing-1013]

I live in the world, and I didnt see it, nor did the judges judging the fights..cant just make up wins man

Well no offense Larry, but I don't think you're very objective, so I don't really care about your opinion on stuff like that. Thanks for chiming in though.

Regardless, I saw him beat Canelo, twice, clearly. So I'm judging guys for me based on what I saw.

Do you agree that Canelo got a draw against Floyd, one judge had it that way? lol

[Larry the boss]

Well no offense Larry, but I don't think you're very objective, so I don't really care about your opinion on stuff like that. Thanks for chiming in though.

Regardless, I saw him beat Canelo, twice, clearly. So I'm judging guys for me based on what I saw.

Do you agree that Canelo got a draw against Floyd, one judge had it that way? lol

floyd has nothing to do with it..GGG lost, you need to get over it

[Boxing-1013]

floyd has nothing to do with it..GGG lost, you need to get over it

Nah, he beat Canelo twice. I've watched thousands of fights. About 5% of them are very close, or hard to score. Those 2 fights weren't. GGG won both comfortably. He just outworked Canelo.

Thanks for your opinions though buddy.

And nice of you to dodge co-signing that Floyd draw on one card vs Canelo. Thought that would knock some sense into you, but it appears you just have an agenda, and aren't a real, honest man. No integrity.

Oh well, do you buddy.

[Larry the boss]

Nah, he beat Canelo twice. I've watched thousands of fights. About 5% of them are very close, or hard to score. Those 2 fights weren't. GGG won both comfortably. He just outworked Canelo.

Thanks for your opinions though buddy.

And nice of you to dodge co-signing that Floyd draw on one card vs Canelo. Thought that would knock some sense into you, but it appears you just have an agenda, and aren't a real, honest man. No integrity.

Oh well, do you buddy.

really nothing to argue here,canelo won..ggg lost..its in the history books..your posts on here will never change history...so keep lying to yourself buddy......

[New England]

Serious question - why did he have all his fights in his backyard in that tourney considering he was really unknown? That Kessler fight in the first round in Oakand is especially odd to me. Why wouldn't that be in the champ's backyard.

serious answer:

fights in the states, especially back then, did much better at the gate and on tv.

additionally, the finale was in atlantic city iirc. i know you guys aren't experts on us geography and that's fine, but this country is giant and those two places are on opposite sides of it. it's around 3000 miles away from ward's "hometown." six hours on a plane, literally days by car. nottingham is actually only about 500 miles further away from AC than oakland is. if you traveled that far in the other direction you'd be in asia, for a little more perspective.

[New England]

I think the tournament organizers wanted a Ward win and wanted to make him into a star. That's the only thing I can think of. I actually found Ward more polarizing than Floyd, and I am surprised he never achieved close to the star power that Mayweather had. To me it seems they shared many things in common as far as marketing a fighter in today's society. But it's not an exact science I suppose.

that's becuase you're totally clueless

[Boxing-1013]

really nothing to argue here,canelo won..ggg lost..its in the history books..your posts on here will never change history...so keep lying to yourself buddy......

Man I don't give a sh.it about what some corrupt judges say, and neither should you lol.

I don't get validation from the opinion of another man or other men.

I watched the fights. I saw two clean, clear GGG wins. That's my view on the fights. GGG was the better man, Canelo paid him well for his belts and the 'win' and 'draw'.

Co-signing every official result in a fight is a really dumb thing to do, but do you man.