Don’t Go Away Mad, Shane… Just Go Away

[TOBYLEE1]

He was offered a rematch with Cotto, but turned it down because he didn't want to fight in New York. Then he was offered a fight with Williams for good money but turned it down because "it would be a bad style match-up" and "Williams is too tall". Then he was offered a match with Berto but turned it down because he wanted a bigger fight. Those fights could have been held in June or July but he turned all of them down. Now he's finally fighting Clottey, which is great, but not until December. He's wasted 9 months when he could have had a good fight - and the rematch with Cotto that he turned down would have been great for boxing because it would have created a new lineal and Ring Welterweight champion. So his anger should be directed at himself.

To be angry at Pac for wanting to fight Cotto is ridiculous. Cotto has more fans than Mosley does, that's just a fact of life; and the style match-up makes Cotto-Pac a more fan-friendly fight than Pac-Mosley. But Mosley has turned down plenty of chances to make other good fights, including a rematch with Cotto.

Very well said

[arraamis]

Article correct on substance, wrong on tone.

While I must admit and agree, this article is biased, to say the least, it does raise very good points and contradictions in the Mosley persona.

#1 - Mosley is the #1 WW, based on his win over Margarito and therefore supersedes Cotto.

Negative! Cotto is still ranked higher than Mosley, because he beat Mosley. You cannot apply the logic of, fighter M beat fighter A, who beat fighter B, therefore fighter M is ranked higher than both fighters A & B. That is total nonsense. Cotto is the #1 WW in the division, with the absence and retirement of Mayweather.

#2 - Mosley is only concerned with legacy and competitive fights, not with the money involved.

False and hypocritical Statements made by Mosley. I quote Mosley here post Margarito "I only want Big money fights" Mosley has been constantly chasing Manny Pac and Floyd Mayweather like they're drug dealers and he's on crack, for almost a year. He turned down fights with Berto, Williams because those fights didn't represent big enough paydays and with Williams, it was too dangerous a fight and not worth the risk.

Mosley cannot on one side of his tongue, condemn Cotto, Floyd and Pac for going after the huge payday fights, while chasing the same fights off the other side of his tongue. He's a hypocrite and a hater.

Since Mosley's personal {Jin Mosley} and legal issues {ongoing Balco Investigation} are having a draining effect on his finances - he is in need of a good payday. And since he IS NOT a draw - he needs and requires an opponent who will help bring in the PPV buys.

#3 - Mosley is a HOF'er

Negative! Mosley is a great fighter, but he should NOT be allowed into the HOF, because he has used Roids during training and was on roids during a sanctioned fight. ..... PERIOD!!!!!

#4 - Mosley had no choice but to fight Clottey, because he & GBP had low-balled Berto and that fight wasn't going to happen and he honestly wants no part of Williams. Floyd & Pac seem destined to fight each other {With the exception of a miraculous win by JMM} And if Cotto is the winner in his matchup with Pac, then he is the most likely next in line for Floyd. So, with that scenario playing out - Mosley had no where else to turn, but to fight Clottey. Because if he didn't accept the Clottey fight - he would certainly find himself sitting on the shelf for the next six months at the minimum.

Mosley has brought alot of his current situation on himself, with absolutely poor management and foresight. He is a partner with GBP and has the leverage to get things accomplished - but he has squandered his position and status. Currently, Mosley is in the worst possible position because he has no leverage - he's not a PPV or ticket draw, he's not the linear champion and he doesn't have the backing of any major boxing network {HBO ...}, willing to back his efforts.

Just a thought.

[Rickety Cricket]

fact of the matter is shane is not a draw, never has never will be, he got lucky against margarito, cotto beats him again if they fight next year.

Lucky against Margarito? Yeah a one sided 9 round ass kicking followed by a viscious knock out of the guy who couldn't be knocked out is luck, ok.

[FLY TY]

Marquez is the consensus #2 P4P, but he's not even in the consensus top 100 at Welterweight. Just because someone is rated highly in the P4P lists doesn't necessarily make them a credible opponent in higher weight divisions. Hopkins is rated #3 P4P - do you think BHop and JMM should square off just because they're both rated in the top 3 in the P4P lists? When Calderon was in the P4P top 10, do you think he'd have been a credible opponent for Hopkins?

The obsession with the P4P lists is getting utterly ridiculous.

Marquez was physically dominated at Lightweight, and looked slower than he had looked at Super Featherweight: he was only able to win at Lightweight because of his exceptional skills. He's still a natural Super Featherweight. He is not a credible opponent for a Welterweight, other than purely in the context of it being a tune-up for Floyd. Everyone has a maximum peak weight, no one can gain weight indefinitely without losing power or speed or relative strength; and Marquez's maximum peak weight just happens to be 130lb.

marquez isn't ranked at WW, b/c he has never fought there before. if the fight was being held at the limit of 147, i might agree its a bit much, but being that its at a catchweight of 144, makes it a more competitive matchup....floyd is the bigger fighter, but its not as if he "stretches" the WW class to it's limits. dude usually comes into fights at no more than 148-149, so if marquez decided to fight at that weight, floyd would be a better opponent for him than lets say a cotto or clottey, who rehydrate to MW status before their fights. it's funny how everybody bashes this fight for the size disparity, but you listen to the other boxers, writers, and commentators, and they are all intrigued by this match-up. **** on b.s. sounds alot like dlh-pacman, before the fight acutally happened. fact is, oscar sought out pacman for the fight, and got embarrassed, marquez called out floyd, floyd obliged, so its disheartening to see so many guys on here claim they're "rooting" for juan, but at the same time give him no chance of winning this fight....i guess it's evident why HE'S a boxer, and you guys aren't.....he's also #2 p4p whether you guys like it or not......and he'll lose to floyd, not b/c the size disparity is too big to overcome, it's because mayweather is a better fighter, and marquez gets hit, and hurt, way too easily.

also, how can you say dude peaks in terms of power/speed at 130, when he beat the **** outta of one of the best fighters at 135??? it remains to be seen how marquez fares at WW, but neither me, you, or any of these other dudes can make that determination for him, until he actuallly fights there. after all, jmm IS the one being paid to do so.

[GRUSTLER]

While I must admit and agree, this article is biased, to say the least, it does raise very good points and contradictions in the Mosley persona.

#1 - Mosley is the #1 WW, based on his win over Margarito and therefore supersedes Cotto.

Negative! Cotto is still ranked higher than Mosley, because he beat Mosley. You cannot apply the logic of, fighter M beat fighter A, who beat fighter B, therefore fighter M is ranked higher than both fighters A & B. That is total nonsense. Cotto is the #1 WW in the division, with the absence and retirement of Mayweather.

#2 - Mosley is only concerned with legacy and competitive fights, not with the money involved.

False and hypocritical Statements made by Mosley. I quote Mosley here post Margarito "I only want Big money fights" Mosley has been constantly chasing Manny Pac and Floyd Mayweather like they're drug dealers and he's on crack, for almost a year. He turned down fights with Berto, Williams because those fights didn't represent big enough paydays and with Williams, it was too dangerous a fight and not worth the risk.

Mosley cannot on one side of his tongue, condemn Cotto, Floyd and Pac for going after the huge payday fights, while chasing the same fights off the other side of his tongue. He's a hypocrite and a hater.

Since Mosley's personal {Jin Mosley} and legal issues {ongoing Balco Investigation} are having a draining effect on his finances - he is in need of a good payday. And since he IS NOT a draw - he needs and requires an opponent who will help bring in the PPV buys.

#3 - Mosley is a HOF'er

Negative! Mosley is a great fighter, but he should NOT be allowed into the HOF, because he has used Roids during training and was on roids during a sanctioned fight. ..... PERIOD!!!!!

#4 - Mosley had no choice but to fight Clottey, because he & GBP had low-balled Berto and that fight wasn't going to happen and he honestly wants no part of Williams. Floyd & Pac seem destined to fight each other {With the exception of a miraculous win by JMM} And if Cotto is the winner in his matchup with Pac, then he is the most likely next in line for Floyd. So, with that scenario playing out - Mosley had no where else to turn, but to fight Clottey. Because if he didn't accept the Clottey fight - he would certainly find himself sitting on the shelf for the next six months at the minimum.

Mosley has brought alot of his current situation on himself, with absolutely poor management and foresight. He is a partner with GBP and has the leverage to get things accomplished - but he has squandered his position and status. Currently, Mosley is in the worst possible position because he has no leverage - he's not a PPV or ticket draw, he's not the linear champion and he doesn't have the backing of any major boxing network {HBO ...}, willing to back his efforts.

Just a thought.

I agree with with #4 and most of what you said except
that Cotto should be #1 in the WW division over Mosley
because he beat him. Even though Cotto beat Mosley,
he still lost to Margarito who Mosley beat at the time
when Margarito was the #1 WW, so shouldn't that
entitle Mosley to the #1 spot? Cotto beat him before
not after the Margarito fight. Cotto/Mosley are going
to have to rematch each other at some point to clear
the riff at 147.

[VipersThunder]

This writer is a complete moron. He says Cotto comes before Mosley no matter what unless he beats him? No sorry the title doesn't work that way numb nuts. By your logic Cotto could get knocked out 4 times in a row and Mosley could beat Mayweather, Pacquio, and Clottey and still be behind Cotto. How does it feel to be a pathetic moron anyway **** for brains?

[leonthegee]

why do we even care? i mean we got marquez v mayweather and cotto v pacquiao who gives a **** about shane mosley really? i like shane mosley too it's not like im a mosley hater but i would rather see him fight berto or zab. why the hell is he fighting clottey?

[project xxx1]

i do agree with most of it but it is biased.ssm the juice head has been calling out alot of names but it doesnt make sense for them to fight him,if he beats clottey and thats a big if,then he sets himself up for a big pay day only after the winner of pbf vs marquez fights the winner of cotto and pac then ssm name comes back into it,untill then the juice head should get back in the gym and do some hgh,growth hormones to keep him young and ready for the rest the elite fighters.

[josofo]

nice to see boxingscene hiring a ****** as a writer.


******s usual have limited oportunities in journalism, its really inspirational to see boxingscene step up, and give a guy a chance

[boricuarn]

I concurred with this boxing report. The problem of some people is that cannot accept one boxer is better than other. Cotto beat by unanimous decision Shane Mosley, no question about that. Mosley beat Margacheata when she was discovered pre fight that the cheating girl was wearing cast in the gloves. I know Cotto will fight Margacheta when she comes out of the suspension, Cotto has demonstrated that he is not afraid like some other boxer in some point in their life. Mosley is calling almost everybody because cannot find a boxer to fight against him. Paul Williams called him out and the senior citizen Mosley play ****** and ignored that, otherwise he was keep calling Pacquiao when he knew he had a match already pre-planned to fight Cotto, also Cotto already has his schedule until the retirement time at age 30. For those Mosley girl fans, please, relax, in some point Cotto will fight every single fighter they put it in the front. The only I have to say you have to be careful with Clottey because he may give you a big beat up, so stop bitching around, train and fight when ever is you turn to fight. Talking like little girls, bitching around like women won’t get an important fight for you. The only Mosley:gay: needs to do is fight everybody, stop selecting people and shut the hell up.