The more I see Plant the more I think he probably outboxes Canelo

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  • dan_cov
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    #121
    I'd only want to see the Andrade fight just so he'd get his mouth shut and we wouldn't have to hear how he was so avoided.

    I know many won't agree but I actually see that as a surprisingly easy fight for Canelo.
    He is skilled but has so many predictable tendencies, hands down coupled with a weak chin that is a recipe for disaster vs Canelo.

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    • PBR Streetgang
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      #122
      I feel like he might make one defense at 168 (Charlo perhaps?); If he doesn't do that than I expect a Bivol fight. Beterbiev needs to get thru Browne, I have a su****ion Artur may start to show his age a bit.

      I get a feeling he doesn't want to fight a fellow countryman unless necessary. I don't think we will see Benavidez or Zurdo. I'm just speculating.

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      • FinlandsFinest
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        #123
        And howd that work out for you? all these crazy ass predictions every single time canelo fights someone. Its always an upset waiting to happen. Do yall watch fights with eyes closed or do you not notice that none of these guys since GGG has had a chance in hell of beating Canelo?

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        • elfag
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          #124
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          Plant had well over 100 amateur fights, kickboxing bouts and has 20 odd as a pro with many at championship level. He has been fighting since he could walk and is a total gymrat - that is where he gets his experience staying dedicated in the gym honing his craft.

          His skills, high ring I.Q those come from experience.

          Get ready to bump this at the weekend, I can't wait.

          He's going to outbox Canelo and make him look inexperienced.


          lmao, ok we bumping now. who has egg on their face. lmao


          plant was a bum beater. He is 29 years old and nobody could name his top 5 wins. People had Lee as his 3rd best win of his career at almost 30 years old.

          Plant doesnt even make canelo's top 5 list. He is just another list of the many defeated at the hands of canelo. Meanwhile it would have taken a miracle for destroyer of bums plant to outbox canelo.

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          • Cobra Curry
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            #125
            Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
            lol lol lol lol lol lol
            I didn't expect much agreement tbh. But if Plant can hang with him I honestly don't see why Andrade can't.

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            • Szef
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              #126
              Originally posted by Cobra Curry

              Demetrius Andrade
              Not a chance

              Andrade lacks the firepower to keep Canelo honest

              I'd like to see him fight Charlo at SMW

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              • buddyr
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                #127
                I can't believe people actually thought plant would win lol

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                • Stuntman Mike
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  I think its gone from Canelo struggling vs movers/slicksters being a touch overplayed too him being overrated vs them. Maybe not overrated but given the benefit of the doubt a bit too much.

                  Plant is a better boxer from a technical standpoint at least, than BJS for example. BJS to me talented sure but for me he never really translated well to the pros despite achieving a fair amount. He is one of those that is very very good for the first four rounds after that he just losses the snap on his shots, looks laboured and just looks like your average run-of-the-mill southpaw. Double jab, double jab, double jab left hand zzz
                  Basic.

                  BJS appears slicker because he bends at the waist a lot, a bit more herky-jerky and fights with a bit more ''swag'' but I don't think he's as slick, as polished or fundamentally sound as Plant just more cagey/jittery,
                  I'm not sure he is athletic either maybe on par for 4 or so rounds. That isn't to say I am 100% sold on Plants stamina I did think he faded in a few of his earlier fights notably against Uzcategui.
                  The more I see Plant he more I am impressed. I think there are a lot of unknowns/questions but the more I see him the more he reminds me of Andre Ward, SMW Ward minus the inside fighting & roughhouse tactics. Not the visibly slower, less sharp LHW version. I don't think SMW Ward gets the credit he deserved, he was a beast at that weight.

                  That is no gimme or easy fight for Canelo.

                  Toughest fight for Canelo since Lara imo and I think he is actually a tougher fight than Beterbiev and Benavidez. They would try walk him down, you don't pressure a Mexican counter-puncher. Its like Marquez you go too him he will light your ass up.
                  You box him, you make him lead and that is Plants MO.

                  Plant has the tools to win this, skillwise, stylistically. He does a lot of what recent opposition have done well vs Canelo but better.
                  He has a faster, sharper jab than GGG. He has the versatility and feints GGG lacks. The athleticism and defensive footwork to get back out of range with better glove positioning and reflexes.
                  GGG just has a power jab. Just a hard thudding jab he really commits too, he steps in very hard with it. Plant can hook off the jab. He has a good stab-jab, sets it up well fakes it and will walk you onto the check hook and tie you up, classic Floyd. Constantly feinting with purpose now like these mimickers out there, these endless amount of copycats that are doing certain moves with no real purpose behind them.
                  He's a good boxer, very educated lead hand. He might have the most educated left hand lead in boxing right now.

                  I have Plant outboxing him. 116-112 type fight

                  I'll go a step further and say I don't think Canelo has any real advantages apart from power, experience and probably the chin. Fundamentals, skills, Plant all day. He's a better boxer than Canelo, period.
                  TLDR
                  I guess not having any "real" advantages like power ,experience and chin are better than fundamentals and skills


                  On a serious note this was an eye opener I didn't think plant had a chance and he really showed how good he was...some of those counters and body shots he landed on canelo would have had lesser men crying
                  Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 11-07-2021, 06:09 PM.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by NC Uppercut

                    Plant has enough pop with his jab and hybrid left hook to get Canelo’s respect. I agree with most everything you have posted here. I will put $ on Plant and post my slip
                    How much did you put on Plant?

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                    • Ray*
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      Nah he would get the same treatment as Callum Smith and BJS. What’s he going to do? Stand his ground and fought in the pocket and make it easier for Canelo? Or box/move back peddle 80% of the time? Either way he isn’t getting his hands raised.

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