The more I see Plant the more I think he probably outboxes Canelo

[elfag]

Canelo has now beat several guys over 6 ft tall. He has gotten great at closing the distance and breaking down the body.


Plant has fought nothing but bums. He wont be able to keep canelo away. He also isnt used to fighting guys that short as canelo and punching down. Canelo has very good head movement and knows how to slip the jab while coming forward.

I also dont rate plant as good as lara. The talent pool at 154 is better than 168. 168 is a weird division, if guys are talented they dont stay there long and go for bigger fights at 175. Its easy to look slick against random euro bums. BJS showed us how garbage he was. if plant is marginally better that doesnt really mean much, he still loses.

[The Problem Child]

Weird, I keep getting the same strange thought everytime I see Plant... like an upset will happen but I kind of ignore the feeling since Canelo is supposed to win. We'll see.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Plant won’t be able to hit Canelo let alone hurt him. Canelo is going to beat the **** out of him.

Canelo ain't a face first brawler and his boxing skills are levels above Plant. His head and upper body movements remind me of a mix of Floyd and Sweet Pea, when he wants to. Yes, he's flatfooted sometimes too, depending on opponent. He could easily beat Plant on pure boxing if he chose. I don't wanna see that. I wanna see those piston sounding Canelo right straights and hooks to the body. He doesn't even need to look for Plant's head. Not sure if Plant wants this fight based on his recent rants.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Unless Canelo is crippled that night, Plant has no chance. I see it as a punishing mismatch. Canelo is pissed off now and is saying if Plant persists in talking about him and past drug accusations, he'd cancel the fight (DBN).

That’s a DBN lie. Canelo didn’t say anything about cancelling a fight. His team insinuated he is going to wreck Plant

[BoxingIsGreat]

Not right now I think, I asked BPP about it a while back cos I used to give em out for the Pick Em league.... last I heard was the same as you BiG, under construction... maybe. But that was about 4 months ago or so and heard nothing since so I ain't holding my breath. Damn shame though cos I reckon we need some form of social currency and 'likes' don't really have any flexibility to em.

Thank you. The points are still there, but they need to figure it out. I'll leave it at 'under construction' for now. Maybe they'll just remove that whole points line. One of worst demotions the site got.

I still hesitate the fact that I can only like (Green K) but I can't dislike (Red K) a post. ****** teenage feature. If it had "dislike," it'd be cool. For now, you can only like or report the poster, which is ******. Not user friendly. The Red/Green K served as what I call 'member-self-moderation'. Great intermediary feature before the mods. That's gone.

[dan_cov]

Plant is a sharpshooter he is fast, accurate and while not a big puncher he is what I'd describe as a spiteful puncher. I definitely feel he has the pop to command respect from the best of them.

I get that and think Canelo has excellent head movement but the taller fighters and jabbers he has fought just haven't had a varied skillset and have been too negative. Plant is a very calm, relaxed, instinctive boxer that I don't think will overcomplicate it and that is why I think he beats him. Sticking too the basics, what he is good at. He is extremely composed in there.
His feint variety, versatility of his jab and ability too hook off it. Canelo tries slipping inside he'll be met with the right hand down the middle. I think this is first true fight where we see what he learned from that Floyd fight.
I think there is a real fear factor in most Canelo opponents, they just show too much respect and are scared stiff of getting countered.

He has a lot more tools than say Kovalev who did nothing but tentatively jab at his gloves and even then Canelo had a torrid time closing the gap just because he stayed busy.
A lot of his opponents keep it too basic they just spend the fight back peddling and just flicking the jab, they're not even varying it its just a little ''leave me alone'' type jab. Too much respect then once he slips the jab they panic, they freeze up and that is where he tends to have his moments.
Plant is a very instinctive fighter that offers a look Canelo hasn't had to deal with since Floyd

[Noelanthony]

“Please, this guy does everything wrong, head up when he throws hooks, on his heels, flat footed. What else? Oh he avoids @twincharlo” said De La Hoya.
Pretty sure it was a much longer rant or there was another part also.

Plant don't hit hard enough to make him pay....... Everyone Avoids Charlo it seems yet he is having competitive fights with Fighters he should be putting away if he wants to be taken seriously. I like him but he does a lot of talking and after seeing Daniel Jacobs walk up on him with a hawaii shirt on and Jesus sandals on, he didn't show that same energy when talking to the camera 2 minutes before.

I need to see who i support in serious fights before they get my full backing. The same applies for Crawford too

[dan_cov]

Canelo is more the safe pick and I totally understand why.
Maybe its just me and I am **** wrong but I really feel and I don't want to say that Plant is all wrong for him as I can sure see Canelo having his moments but I just feel he'll be one step ahead of Canelo throughout and his style (combined with athleticism, speed and such) has the answers for what Canelo brings or will try to employ.

I thought Smith would do quite a lot better than he did actually and felt BJS would offer a little more resistance if nothing else but with Plant I think he can get the job done.

Canelo has done so much in such a short period that he is hard too pick against. I get if fans actually didn't feel comfortable picking anyone against him, he's earned that status.

Fair play to Canelo I am absolutely convinced there are easier opponents out there and ones he'd likely get more credit for taking but I guess Plant has something he wants and I think that is daring to be great.

[Noelanthony]

Plant is a sharpshooter he is fast, accurate and while not a big puncher he is what I'd describe as a spiteful puncher. I definitely feel he has the pop to command respect from the best of them.

I get that and think Canelo has excellent head movement but the taller fighters and jabbers he has fought just haven't had a varied skillset and have been too negative. Plant is a very calm, relaxed, instinctive boxer that I don't think will overcomplicate it and that is why I think he beats him. Sticking too the basics, what he is good at. He is extremely composed in there.
His feint variety, versatility of his jab and ability too hook off it. Canelo tries slipping inside he'll be met with the right hand down the middle. I think this is first true fight where we see what he learned from that Floyd fight.
I think there is a real fear factor in most Canelo opponents, they just show too much respect and are scared stiff of getting countered.

He has a lot more tools than say Kovalev who did nothing but tentatively jab at his gloves and even then Canelo had a torrid time closing the gap just because he stayed busy.
A lot of his opponents keep it too basic they just spend the fight back peddling and just flicking the jab, they're not even varying it its just a little ''leave me alone'' type jab. Too much respect then once he slips the jab they panic, they freeze up and that is where he tends to have his moments.
Plant is a very instinctive fighter that offers a look Canelo hasn't had to deal with since Floyd

Lara was a better boxer than Plant.
You make some valid points about the fear factor with some of Canelo's opponents , however what major threats did the majority of Plant's opponents pose that Canelo can not make it a harder night for Plant. Plant will be tentative when he feels the power of CANELO , whether on his arms or gloves . He will think safety first and will have no real offensive. If i'm wrong i will be the first to come on here and apologise i have no dog in the race

[Thuglife Nelo]

Canelo is more the safe pick and I totally understand why.
Maybe its just me and I am **** wrong but I really feel and I don't want to say that Plant is all wrong for him as I can sure see Canelo having his moments but I just feel he'll be one step ahead of Canelo throughout and his style (combined with athleticism, speed and such) has the answers for what Canelo brings or will try to employ.

I thought Smith would do quite a lot better than he did actually and felt BJS would offer a little more resistance if nothing else but with Plant I think he can get the job done.

Canelo has done so much in such a short period that he is hard too pick against. I get if fans actually didn't feel comfortable picking anyone against him, he's earned that status.

Fair play to Canelo I am absolutely convinced there are easier opponents out there and ones he'd likely get more credit for taking but I guess Plant has something he wants and I think that is daring to be great.

So if Plant doesn’t the perform the way you WANT him to what will be your verdict of Canelo? What if Canelo is on his off night but still beats Plant? What if Plant is on his A game but still looks inferior in skill and isn’t throwing.