At what point does beating Pacquiao no longer count because he's old?

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  • LeOoze
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    #41
    Originally posted by GypsyTRAIN

    You say Pac legit lost to Horn and in the same sentence say Floyd didnt lose to JLC or Maidana 1.

    Stop it boy
    It will go in the history books that Pac lost to horn. Floyd went 4-0 against JLC and Maidana.

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    • GypsyTRAIN
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      No he didn’t. He beat both close and then rematched both and won clearly.

      not getting blown out like canelo or manny doesn’t mean you win.
      Yeesh. You are deluded AF. HBO was Floyds personal fanboy service and they had JLC winning. Guess that dont mean nothing bc only you know anything.

      Clown

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        #43
        Originally posted by LarryX....

        yet Floyd was still p4p#1, 2 division unified,lineal champ and undefeated yet ive seen you discredit him over and over again...a guy at 38 beat a guy like Manny while Manny was younger yet he gets no credit...look at what you just posted and reverse it and tell me how it makes sense
        I am a fan of floyd. The only problem i had with their fight is that it could've happen way earlier had floyd actually wanted it to. I understand floyd is older than manny when they fought, but his style favors his age more than pacquiao's. 45 year old floyd will always be better than 45 year old pacquiao as his style ages more gracefully and one that provides him lesser wear and tear. the only time pacquiao had a small to decent chance to win against him was a small window in 2009-2011.

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          #44
          Originally posted by dibzvincent143

          I am a fan of floyd. The only problem i had with their fight is that it could've happen way earlier had floyd actually wanted it to. I understand floyd is older than manny when they fought, but his style favors his age more than pacquiao's. 45 year old floyd will always be better than 45 year old pacquiao as his style ages more gracefully and one that provides him lesser wear and tear. the only time pacquiao had a small to decent chance to win against him was a small window in 2009-2011.
          that just isnt true..Floyd just looked bad against a youtubber and didnt look great in 2017 against Conner while Manny just fought for another title....give credit where it is due

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            #45
            Originally posted by GypsyTRAIN

            Yeesh. You are deluded AF. HBO was Floyds personal fanboy service and they had JLC winning. Guess that dont mean nothing bc only you know anything.

            Clown
            More ringside observers had Floyd winning or a draw. Close doesn’t mean you lost.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              No he didn’t. He beat both close and then rematched both and won clearly.
              So why you say pac arguably lost 4 when I'n reality it's 3 wins if not scorecard error, and we know the 4th fight wasn't necessary but pac wanted to ko jmm in 4th not satisfied continually try to outpoint jmm. What would happen if floyd tried no pac in a rematch you think?
              Pac s only lost 4 times legitimately.
              Pac didn't lose to floyd, it was controversial with IVs and no rematch. If you have home advantage and still say it's a great win that's better than any pac win and there's nothing pac can do to equal that win then you have to give rematch . Otherwise the wins is bogus and counts for nothing. Boxing fans knows Floyd's win counts for nothing over pac
              Last edited by hugh grant; 08-27-2021, 02:29 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by hugh grant

                So why you say pac arguably lost 4 when I'n reality it's 3 wins if not scorecard error, and we know the 4th fight wasn't necessary but pac wanted to ko jmm in 4th not continually try to outpoint jmm.
                Pac s only lost 4 times legitimately.
                Pac didn't lose to floyd, it was controversial with IVs and no rematch. If you have home advantage and still say it's a great win that's better than any pac win and there's nothing pac can do to equal that win then you have to give rematch . Otherwise the wins is bogus and counts for nothing. Boxing fans knows it counts for nothing
                Arguably because in each of the 3 fights more ringside scorers had either jmm winning or a draw than had manny winning.

                Manny took the 4th fight for less money than he was offered to fight Floyd. The ko was karma for not manning up and fighting the best in the world.

                It wasn’t close or controversial. That is just you being a sore loser and Manny cum slurping Stan.

                Absolutely no rematch needed or warranted. That would be like asking manny to rematch clottey. You’re begging and desperately hoping manny can get lucky.

                Manny can equal that win by beating the 2nd best p4p boxer in the world, who is younger than him, just like Floyd did when he beat Manny.

                if the win over him is no big deal please shut the f-ck up about Manny being so great.

                Manny is great and beating him will always be quality unless you’re one of his slurping stans that hasn’t gotten over the loss.
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-27-2021, 02:32 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  More ringside observers had Floyd winning or a draw. Close doesn’t mean you lost.
                  That is fake news. You can make anything you want because nobody has links to 2003. Ya basic donut

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                    Absolutely no rematch needed or warranted. That would be like asking manny to rematch clottey. You’re begging and desperately hoping manny can get lucky.

                    Manny can equal that win by beating the 2nd best p4p boxer in the world, who is younger than him, just like Floyd did when he beat Manny.

                    if the win over him is no big deal please shut the f-ck up about Manny being so great.

                    Manny is great and beating him will always be quality unless you’re one of his slurping stans that hasn’t gotten over the loss.
                    Floydboy logic at work again. No pac doesn't need to rematch clotte y as pac didn't have home advantage or IVs, and no controversies around fight as far as I'm aware other than how clotte y looked so bad when he looked great against cotto?
                    Pac also didn t say there is nothing clotte y can do to equal that win over clotte y and nothing clotte y can do to ever be as great as pac, as anything clotte y does will just make that win over clotte y look that much better. So clotte y doesn't need to rematch pac. Clotted can beat GGG or Nel o maybe now that would make up for losing to Pac so embarassingly. But being realistic pac knows clotte y isn't likely to be considered as great as himself so knows a clotte y rematch isn't really necessary when beating thurman and spence is better. Why did floyd fight berto?
                    Bigg Dunn didn't I give you a friendly warning not to make pointless replies to me!
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 08-27-2021, 02:54 PM.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by GypsyTRAIN

                      That is fake news. You can make anything you want because nobody has links to 2003. Ya basic donut
                      No it’s real news. Everyone on this site has seen it and knows it. In every thread about the fight they talk about that and how fat Dan had Floyd winning.

                      You don’t really matter.

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