At what point does beating Pacquiao no longer count because he's old?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Floydboy logic at work again. No pac doesn't need to rematch clotte y as pac didn't have home advantage or IVs, and no controversies around fight as far as I'm aware other than how clotte y looked so bad when he looked great against cotto?
    Pac also didn t say there is nothing clotte y can do to equal that win over clotte y and nothing clotte y can do to ever be as great as pac. So clotte y doesn't need to rematch pac. Clotted can beat GGG or Nel o maybe now that would make up for losing to Pac so embarassingly. But being realistic pac knows clotte y isn't unlikely to be considered as great as himself so knows a clotte y rematch isn't necessary when beating thurman and spence is better. Why did floyd fight berto?
    Bigg Dunn didn't I give you a friendly warning not to make pointless replies to me!
    Home advantage? That is just some made up Manny cum swallowing fan boy bull.

    Manny can always go to Manila and fight for 10% of what he earned in Vegas.

    Manny had the crowd so using your dumb ass logic he should get to fight manny with his fans. Stop it.

    Blah, blah blah. You sound like an idiot f-ckboy.

    Floyd fought berto because he earned the right to fight who he wanted, same as manny when he fought horn.

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    • GypsyTRAIN
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      No it’s real news. Everyone on this site has seen it and knows it. In every thread about the fight they talk about that and how fat Dan had Floyd winning.

      You don’t really matter.
      when i see u its on sight

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      • hugh grant
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        #53
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        Home advantage? That is just some made up Manny cum swallowing fan boy bull.

        Manny can always go to Manila and fight for 10% of what he earned in Vegas.

        Manny had the crowd so using your dumb ass logic he should get to fight manny with his fans. Stop it.

        Blah, blah blah. You sound like an idiot f-ckboy.

        Floyd fought berto because he earned the right to fight who he wanted, same as manny when he fought horn.
        Just need floyd fanatics to admit win over Nell and pac isn't that great in big scheme of things. Just need them to admit there are things Nel o and pac can do too offset there loss to floyd and things they have done already but it's a hard job, floyd fans admit nothing.
        Real boxing fans know pac and Nell don't need a floyd rematch.

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          #54
          Originally posted by hugh grant

          Just need floyd fanatics to admit win over Nell and pac isn't that great in big scheme of things. Just need them to admit there are things Nel o and pac can do too offset there loss to floyd and things they have done already but it's a hard job, floyd fans admit nothing.
          Real boxing fans know pac and Nell don't need a floyd rematch.
          Both wins are not only solid, they get better with time. That is why slurpers like you keep trying to minimize them.

          no one thinks Floyd needs to rematch either. That is just some dumb garbage you came up with.

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn


            no one thinks Floyd needs to rematch either. That is just some dumb garbage you came up with.
            Ha ha, boxing fans only say floyd needs to rematch Nell and pac when floyd boys get carried away with how great the hometown, CW, IVwins are!
            Nel o should drain some green light cruiserweight down and only after fight tell the cruiserweight there's nothing he can do to be better than him, so the cruiserweight might as well retire. In fact why don't Nell just retire now if he can't be goat oneday, I bet Nell has that high aspirations? Are you going to break ne ws to Nell that top 25 ATG is as high as he can go?
            Floyd's all smoke and mirrors, the control floyd has is denying pac and rematch to be ahead of them, that's how thin a line it is according to floyd fanboys. I'm sure pac wouldn't mind giving clotte y a rematch and if clotte y were to win next 2 he still wouldn't be as great as pac.
            Smoke and mirrors is Floyd's wins over pac and nelo.

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              #56
              Originally posted by hugh grant

              Ha ha, boxing fans only say floyd needs to rematch Nell and pac when floyd boys get carried away with how great the hometown, CW, IVwins are!
              Nel o should drain some green light cruiserweight down and only after fight tell the cruiserweight there's nothing he can do to be better than him, so the cruiserweight might as well retire. In fact why don't Nell just retire now if he can't be goat oneday, I bet Nell has that high aspirations? Are you going to break ne ws to Nell that top 25 ATG is as high as he can go?
              Floyd's all smoke and mirrors, the control floyd has is denying pac and rematch to be ahead of them, that's how thin a line it is according to floyd fanboys. I'm sure pac wouldn't mind giving clotte y a rematch and if clotte y were to win next 2 he still wouldn't be as great as pac.
              Smoke and mirrors is Floyd's wins over pac and nelo.
              No boxing fans says that. Just imbecile slurpers like you that can’t get over manny losing.

              No it’s called power. Manny didn’t have as much, because he wasn’t as good. He used his power just as Floyd used his.

              Manny just got ktfo by jmm and beat by horn.

              There is no rematch because Manny didn’t earn it. Just like clottey didn’t earn a rematch.

              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-27-2021, 04:24 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                There is no rematch because Manny didn’t earn it. Just like clottey didn’t earn a rematch.
                You still don't get it. Nobody thinks pac and Nell need a rematch with floyd. ONLY floyd fans think pac and Nel o need to beat Floyd!
                Boxing fans know pac is greater than floyd already and Nell is well on his way. So it's case of whether floyd wants a non controversial win over 2 peers who is deemed greater already and 1 who is well on his way
                People aren't impressed with Floyd's CW, and hometown I V wins.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 08-27-2021, 04:42 PM.

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                  #58
                  Beating old star always counts.

                  Mike Tyson beat old Holmes. It counted.

                  Holyfield beat even older Holmes. It counted.

                  Joshua and Fury both made their names beating old version Wlad Klitschko.

                  Floyd beat de la Hoya and stole star power from him.

                  Pacquiao beat even older de la Hoya and stole the rest star power.

                  Canelo became a big star when he beat the shadow of Cotto.

                  And so on.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by hugh grant

                    You still don't get it. Nobody thinks pac and Nell need a rematch with floyd. ONLY floyd fans think pac and Nel o need to beat Floyd!
                    Boxing fans know pac is greater than floyd already and Nell is well on his way. So it's case of whether floyd wants a non controversial win over 2 peers who is deemed greater already and 1 who is well on his way
                    People aren't impressed with Floyd's CW, and hometown I V wins.
                    No Floyd fans point out he already beat them.

                    Neither is ranked ahead of him or will be.

                    Well if they aren’t impressed, how did he win FOTD during the decade he beat both?

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                      Neither is ranked ahead of him or will be.

                      Well if they aren’t impressed, how did he win FOTD during the decade he beat both?
                      I think in past I've seen floyd ahead of pac and have scratched my head wondering why? Future polls it remains to be seen if people have wised up to how controversial it is how floyd is higher than pac. D LH has been in ring with both and has pac ahead. Why wouldn't every boxing historian think like boxing fans and dlh does, even the anonymous polls. Pac is inarguably pfp king of era
                      Its one of life's mysteries how floyd won FOTD. It caused uproar though FOTD honour going to floyd.
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 08-27-2021, 04:58 PM.

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