At what point does beating Pacquiao no longer count because he's old?

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  • hugh grant
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    #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    Like I said before, both wins look even better with the time, especially the Manny win because with each win it proves he wasn’t as shot as his slurper stans try to argue.

    Manny isn’t rated the best of all time. And more people rate Floyd above him, a point you ignore whenever it’s made.
    Pac wasn't shot when Floyd beat pac, but he was still in process of rebuilding confidence after jmm ko, but it was a controversial Iv enhanced win, people are frustrated with floyd til this day and aren't forgiving, Floyd is penalised big time for messing about so naively? And the fact Floyd didn't give Pac a rematch he pretty much promised he would furtherbdiminishes the win. The win isn't growing, only in Floyd fans hearts, not their minds. Because even Floyd fans know that's not how boxing works and that's why in their minds they want Pac koed badly every fight. Boxing is dangerous and every time Pac or any fighters gets in ring they are fighting for themselves not for floyd. Bigg Dunn you should be ashamed of yourself every time you get in a debate with me you get desperate and plumb the depths?

    Nah, more rate Pac higher than floyd. I think you realise that. You only keep mentioning Floyd in same sentence as Pac in hope some of the magic runs off on Floyd, in your heart and mind you know Pac up there with srr and Floyd s not. Even the polls you saw years ago where Floyd is above pac, you didn't agree with them, didn't believe them
    Last edited by hugh grant; 08-28-2021, 03:00 PM.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #72
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      Pac wasn't shot when Floyd beat pac, but he was still in process of rebuilding confidence after jmm ko, but it was a controversial Iv enhanced win, people are frustrated with floyd til this day and aren't forgiving, Floyd is penalised big time for messing about so naively? And the fact Floyd didn't give Pac a rematch he pretty much promised he would furtherbdiminishes the win. The win isn't growing, only in Floyd fans hearts, not their minds. Because even Floyd fans know that's not how boxing works and that's why in their minds they want Pac koed badly every fight. Boxing is dangerous and every time Pac or any fighters gets in ring they are fighting for themselves not for floyd. Bigg Dunn you should be ashamed of yourself every time you get in a debate with me you get desperate and plumb the depths?

      Nah, more rate Pac higher than floyd. I think you realise that. You only keep mentioning Floyd in same sentence as Pac in hope some of the magic runs off on Floyd, in your heart and mind you know Pac up there with srr and Floyd s not. Even the polls you saw years ago where Floyd is above pac, you didn't agree with them, didn't believe them
      He got ktfo almost 3 years before that. Come on with that BS.

      what silliness are you even posting.

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      • hugh grant
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        #73
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        He got ktfo almost 3 years before that. Come on with that BS.

        what silliness are you even posting.
        Bigg dunn you're a funny one. So nothing you say is a little far fetched? You never admit anything, don't give an inch do you ha ha?
        Last edited by hugh grant; 08-28-2021, 05:30 PM.

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          #74
          Originally posted by LarryX....

          that just isnt true..Floyd just looked bad against a youtubber and didnt look great in 2017 against Conner while Manny just fought for another title....give credit where it is due
          So you think floyd who is a defensive specialist, highly elusive, fights more often than not on the backfoot, not a volume puncher and has probably received the least punishment for the last 20 years of any known fighter has more wear and tear than pacquiao?? Because he’s older than 2 years??

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            #75
            Originally posted by Bxzel145
            Beating Pac don't mean much anymore cuz he's really old.
            About 5 years ago……………..

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              #76
              Still a solid win for Ugas. And it also ruined the fantasy of Pacquao fans. I read on Facebook that Pacquiao is capable of beating Golovkin and Canelo.

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                #77
                Originally posted by dibzvincent143

                So you think floyd who is a defensive specialist, highly elusive, fights more often than not on the backfoot, not a volume puncher and has probably received the least punishment for the last 20 years of any known fighter has more wear and tear than pacquiao?? Because he’s older than 2 years??
                floyd has always had bad hands and if you look at them since 2015 you clearly see Floyd is the one who has fallen off worse

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                • hugh grant
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by RomanReigns2
                  Still a solid win for Ugas. And it also ruined the fantasy of Pacquao fans. I read on Facebook that Pacquiao is capable of beating Golovkin and Canelo.
                  Not sure about that. Ugas won fight but did Ugas have 6 weeks to train for fight?

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                  Last edited by hugh grant; 08-30-2021, 01:45 PM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

                    Dumb boxing newb

                    Ppl age differently, boxers careers take different paths

                    ugas 35 with 20+ fights
                    Pac 42 with 70+ fights
                    manny has a lot more mileage on the meter.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by LarryX....

                      floyd has always had bad hands and if you look at them since 2015 you clearly see Floyd is the one who has fallen off worse
                      You could be right that he’s fallen off worse since 2015, or he just didn’t have the desire to really compete at the top anymore or more importantly, he just being smart that it’s time to walk away. I personally believe he just toyed with Conor if that’s where you’re basing it off from.
                      But during their mega fight, pacquiao was obvious to have fallen off more from his prime version relatively compared to floyd though. And i don’t buy the shoulder injury excuse. He been looking like ish before that for like 4 fights and not very impressive.

                      pacquiao is just squeezing whatever he has left, not very smart in my opinion, but he has political plans, and boxing is too good of a platform — and free for that matter, for his political campaign. He can’t afford to let his name sleep for years until the presidential elections. And the money is still solid. (But i dont believe he has any problems financially).

                      floyd, again in my opinion, if he also squeezes whatever he has left and didn’t play smart, would still beat ugas, thurman and whoever pac beat the last few years. Horn would also be hard for him due to the wrestlings allowed in australia.

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