At what point does beating Pacquiao no longer count because he's old?

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  • clmags12
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    #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    No he didn’t. He beat both close and then rematched both and won clearly.

    not getting blown out like canelo or manny doesn’t mean you win.
    Damn Dunn! I could tell you stood up to type this!

    Its ok to admit Castillo 1 was a sketchy win. We all know.

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      #62
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      I think in past I've seen floyd ahead of pac and have scratched my head wondering why? Future polls it remains to be seen if people have wised up to how controversial it is how floyd is higher than pac. D LH has been in ring with both and has pac ahead. Why wouldn't every boxing historian think like boxing fans and dlh does, even the anonymous polls. Pac is inarguably pfp king of era
      Its one of life's mysteries how floyd won FOTD. It caused uproar though FOTD honour going to floyd.
      This is dumb. He won FOTD off beating canelo and manny. Accept it.

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        #63
        Originally posted by clmags12

        Damn Dunn! I could tell you stood up to type this!

        Its ok to admit Castillo 1 was a sketchy win. We all know.
        lol. Sketchy is manny over jmm 1-3.

        Close doesn’t mean he lost. As many that said he lost, there are that said he won.

        Definitely should’ve been a rematch and Floyd proved himself/

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          #64
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          This is dumb. He won FOTD off beating canelo and manny. Accept it.
          Yeh, we know floyd has a green, drained, controversial I v enhanced win over them. So why is it dumb to think he couldnt win on that basis when pac and Nell did more
          Last edited by hugh grant; 08-27-2021, 05:50 PM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            lol. Sketchy is manny over jmm 1-3.

            Close doesn’t mean he lost. As many that said he lost, there are that said he won.

            Definitely should’ve been a rematch and Floyd proved himself/
            Haha. Imo, Manny and Juan are so evenly matched, it would depend on whose watching. I can't even get mad if someone says Marquez won. A least iits in the books, lol.

            Castillo 1- I felt he bullied Floyd around enough to get the nod. Floyd's face before the decision kind says it all. Floyd did shut him out in 2nd.

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              #66
              Originally posted by hugh grant

              Yeh, we know floyd has a green, drained, controversial I v enhanced win over them. So why is it dumb to think he couldnt win on that basis when pac and Nell did more
              He won thoroughly and decisively. That is why he was FOTD. Those are the best wins of the decade.

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                #67
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                He won thoroughly and decisively. That is why he was FOTD. Those are the best wins of the decade.
                If boxing historians of publications hold those 2 wins in high regard over everything pac or Nel o did when others don't floyd was a lucky man, what was floyd doing real the the 8 years?

                If justice is done it will only be that decade floyd gets credit for..If in best boxer polls in future that name floyd is above pac that will be controversial. Nel o is hot on Floyd's coat tails now also.
                That's why it was in floyd best interests to have a rematch over them to have 2 wins over a fighter deemed greater and 2 wins over a fighter who one day maybe greater is more useful than the controversial wins Floyd's lumbered with. Trouble is with floyd is l il floyd will take those controversial wins as it's all about zero.
                But again it's only floyd fanatics who think Nell and pac have to beat floyd when they know full well floyd will never give rematch! Boxing fans know pac and Nell are doing fine without a win over floyd.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 08-28-2021, 03:35 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  If boxing historians of publications hold those 2 wins in high regard over everything pac or Nel o did when others don't floyd was a lucky man.
                  If justice is done it will only be that decade floyd gets credit for..If in best boxer polls in future that name floyd is above pac that will be controversial. Nel o is hot on Floyd's coat tails now also.
                  That's why floyd needed a rematch over them to have 2 wins over fighters deemed greater is more useful than the controversial wins Floyd's lumbered with. Trouble is floyd will take those controversial wins as it's all about zero
                  Everybody holds those wins in high regard except the slurper fans of the losing fighters.

                  Floyd is always above Manny and it’s never controversial except to the slurper Manny stans like yourself.

                  Canelo isnt hot on his coattails. That is just ridiculous.

                  He beat them both clearly and by a wide margin. The only controversy is when will slurper Manny stans get over the loss?
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-28-2021, 03:33 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    Everybody holds those wins in high regard except the slurper fans of the losing fighters.

                    Floyd is always above Manny and it’s never controversial except to the slurper Manny stans like yourself.

                    Canelo isnt hot on his coattails. That is just ridiculous.

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                    No, don't exagerate, only floyd fans and anonymous people who don't have to publicly address what's so good about wins hold it in high regard. People who think pac best floyd obviously don't hold win in high regard.
                    Floyd in the past in certain polls has been ahead, but don't exagerate. No indicator of how people view floyd today with Nell and pac continuing to write THEIR story. Operative word being THEIR. And floyd diminishing his with his exhibitions.
                    You are so scared to acknowledge countless stars who rate pac best of all time or there abouts as if it has no meaning? You only see what you want to see. Ignore things that distort or challenge your views

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by hugh grant

                      No, don't exagerate, only floyd fans and anonymous people who don't have to publicly address what's so good about wins hold it in high regard. People who think pac best floyd obviously don't hold win in high regard.
                      Floyd in the past in certain polls has been ahead, but don't exagerate. No indicator of how people view floyd today with Nell and pac continuing to write THEIR story. Operative word being THEIR. And floyd diminishing his with his exhibitions.
                      You are so scared to acknowledge countless stars who rate pac best of all time or there abouts as if it has no meaning? You only see what you want to see. Ignore things that distort or challenge your views
                      Like I said before, both wins look even better with the time, especially the Manny win because with each win it proves he wasn’t as shot as his slurper stans try to argue.

                      Manny isn’t rated the best of all time. And more people rate Floyd above him, a point you ignore whenever it’s made.

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