Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Risks All-Time Big-Man Title in Deontay Wilder Trilogy

[champion4ever]

The guy is a gypsy, so by definition he's dodgy as f but that doesn't mean that he cheated via glovegate, I've already had this argument with u so many times champ, wilder never mentioned anything about the glove until ldbc did, weeks after the bout, and he's a professional boxer with hundreds of rounds boxed in bouts and sparring, he will know the difference between a bare fist and Everlast horsehair gloves, just let it go, I'm never gonna believe it, even if wilder knocks him spark out in 2 rounds, I will never believe it cos it's not true and just a way for a guy who took a huge blow to his incredibly inflated ego to make sense of his loss without losing face

Of course you will never believe it because you don't want to. Your mind simply won't believe what your eyes have seen based on your values. So just remain in your denial.

[I have no ears]

weight is only one consideration and BTW Marciano walked around over 200 and so did Louis. they got down to a lighter weight for a fight due to a training and tactical preference. People neglect to consider this. Reach is a much more immediate advantage than weight. Fury loops his punches. Much as Wilder was able to catch him, Louis would probably do likewise and was a murderous finisher. Marciano learned a style of fighting where reach is mitigated because, like Armstrong, he had none. Marciano would hit you everywhere. Fury would have arms beaten to shreds... the way he flairs his elbows on his jab? Like a Sicilian knife fighter who would cut the elbow sticking out, Marciano would crunch fury's elbow sticking out until Fury did not want to throw his jab. Marciano was relentless... fury does not have the punch to keep him honest.

Louis would get his opportunities. He probably hit a lot harder than guys Fury faced... including perhaps Wilder (who knows?). If Louis really wanted to he could fight at Wilder's weight... 220ish which is around what he weighed when he fought Marciano. Would that make you feel better? lol.

So... does that mean what I said is absolutely a given? No... Fury could find a way to maul at marciano, tie him up inside and maybe catch him coming in with feints... He could perhaps outfox Louis, keep him at a distance for the fight...BUT you wanted reasons, so I gave you scenarios that are realistic.

A great match up would be Foreman and Fury. Liston would be a handful and a half for Fury... I tend to think Liston was a lot better than foreman, thats just me. But Foreman and the Gypsy King, that would be a real barn burner!

Fair enough, sounds like u have thought about these matchups a lot, but to be fair you're reasoning is solid, I still believe Marciano would have problems with fury from the footage I've seen of him but u have definitely put a doubt in my mind at least, and fully agreed on the hypothetical foreman matchup, foreman's thudding shots would really test fury especially in the early rounds

[billeau2]

Fair enough, sounds like u have thought about these matchups a lot, but to be fair you're reasoning is solid, I still believe Marciano would have problems with fury from the footage I've seen of him but u have definitely put a doubt in my mind at least, and fully agreed on the hypothetical foreman matchup, foreman's thudding shots would really test fury especially in the early rounds

Of course we never know, but we can certainly look at precident. This is a problem when we look at older fighters because in those days:
1) Fighters really strived to be as light as possible
2) Most of the big fighters were considered "Palokas" lol. Just big guys. Like for Louis, Abe Simon. Canera had some movement skills, but not on the order of what we see in guys like Fury and even Valuev.

Yeah lol! Foreman would go after Fury, it would be exciting. I actually think Fury wins that one.

[Fighter78]

I threw up in my mouth at least twice while reading this...it may have been 3 times...I was nauseated.

Wow....was this an actual real article that somebody wrote? Wow...that guy should never work in sports ever again.

[SUBZER0ED]

The article's title says Fury will risk losing his all-time- big man title fighting Wilder a third time. Then wraps it up praising him as the best big man that has ever been. Fitz is getting old.

[I have no ears]

Of course you will never believe it because you don't want to. Your mind simply won't believe what your eyes have seen based on your values. So just remain in your denial.

My values have nothing to do with it, u think I'm a racist just cos I don't believe it, but I've supported many black fighters in boxing over the years, and have never seen race as a huge factor in anything I've done in my life, or people I know have done in theirs, I just have a problem with people who always make out race is a factor in everything, because that's never been my reality in life and this isn't coming from someone who's stayed in one city there whole life, I've lived in cities all over the world and the very little race issues I've come across have been directed towards white people rather than the other way around so that's where my animosity towards constant race baiters comes from, that doesn't make me racist and neither does the fact I don't believe ldbc, or wilder after he realised ldbc had a new excuse ready made for him

[I have no ears]

Of course we never know, but we can certainly look at precident. This is a problem when we look at older fighters because in those days:
1) Fighters really strived to be as light as possible
2) Most of the big fighters were considered "Palokas" lol. Just big guys. Like for Louis, Abe Simon. Canera had some movement skills, but not on the order of what we see in guys like Fury and even Valuev.

Yeah lol! Foreman would go after Fury, it would be exciting. I actually think Fury wins that one.

I had to Google what palokas meant haha, but it's interesting to see how heavyweights have evolved over the years with them preferring to be light back in the day, whereas today the three top heavy's are all above 6'5 and pretty heavy, wilder to a lesser extent.

I think prime foreman would really give fury problems, I don't wanna say he would beat him for definite but if there's any past heavy that I would bet on to do the job on him it would be him

[Jack_sh*t]

The Widersexuals on this forum make Trump-Tards sound credible. Fury beat the crap out of Wilder and is likely to do it again but worse next month. At which point Wilder will blame aliens.

[Ajvar]

Vitali Klitschko, Lennox Lewis, Even Correy Saunders would have dismantled Fury to molecules.

[billeau2]

I had to Google what palokas meant haha, but it's interesting to see how heavyweights have evolved over the years with them preferring to be light back in the day, whereas today the three top heavy's are all above 6'5 and pretty heavy, wilder to a lesser extent.

I think prime foreman would really give fury problems, I don't wanna say he would beat him for definite but if there's any past heavy that I would bet on to do the job on him it would be him

Sorry for the spelling it should be palooka.
Foreman was something... Frankly as intimidating as Tyson was, Foreman had a legit mean streak a mile wide. Norman Mailer wrote a great article on him and pointed out that Foreman had/has shark eyes. Tyson liked the sport, and you could take him out of his search and destroy attitude with an appeal to history, etc. Lewis spoke about how tyson loved to talk about studying the great fighters. Richard Pryer described Foreman coming into the ring to fight Ali: Pryer says, "So... Big George comes in looks around and says 'which one the referee?' Good cause im gonna kill the other mther fker."