Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Risks All-Time Big-Man Title in Deontay Wilder Trilogy

[I have no ears]

You seem to want to deify Fury and there really is no reason to do it. He is big and a good boxer who beat Wilder on a very off night. Where was this indomitable killer in the Otto Wallin fight? Do you think Otto would have troubled Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes or even Lyle or Shavers? Really. Don't let Fury's one night stand against Wilder the second time define him. See how he stands the test of time and different styles before you elevate him to "great" status. He certainly hasn't earned it at this point. Be real. I still think he looks like a stork imitating a hummingbird. No grace whatsoever.

I agree he needs to do way more to be elevated to greatness status but if u can't see the grace in a 6'9 behemoth moving like a middleweight u don't know what your looking at

[I have no ears]

Much better fighters, that be the reason

I'm not trying to s**t on your opinion, I'm just interested in you're reasoning why u think that

[I have no ears]

Sorry for the spelling it should be palooka.
Foreman was something... Frankly as intimidating as Tyson was, Foreman had a legit mean streak a mile wide. Norman Mailer wrote a great article on him and pointed out that Foreman had/has shark eyes. Tyson liked the sport, and you could take him out of his search and destroy attitude with an appeal to history, etc. Lewis spoke about how tyson loved to talk about studying the great fighters. Richard Pryer described Foreman coming into the ring to fight Ali: Pryer says, "So... Big George comes in looks around and says 'which one the referee?' Good cause im gonna kill the other mther fker."

You're like a boxing encyclopedia my man, very informative and non partisan, compared to the ultra bias debating that usually goes on here

[I have no ears]

Fury is now being hyped to mythical proportions. Now he is somehow better than Ali and hits harder than a young Mike Tyson. When he has only fought 2 Hall of Fame fighters. One who was almost 40 and another who was just as overrated as Fury himself is. Just over a year ago, guys were on here debating that Wilder was the hardest puncher of all time. I constantly said he wasn't even close, because it was easy for him to look good against the level of fighters he fought. Now that's common knowledge and he is exposed. Just like I am now saying that Fury has fought mostly bums and he is not unbeatable like a lot of you think. Within his next few fights, you will all see this to be true as well.

I haven't heard anyone say he hits harder than Mike Tyson but maybe I've missed those posts, in regards to ppl comparing him to Ali, maybe they are referring to his footwork in the ring and how he's doing it as a 6'9 monster, but again I haven't heard ppl say he's better than Ali, but imo I'm not sure Ali beats him so I guess I'm saying it now

[I have no ears]

I thought the term was "big palooka"?

Sorry Mr spell checker, how abhorrent of me

[OldTerry]

I'm not trying to s**t on your opinion, I'm just interested in you're reasoning why u think that

In Fury's case Joe Lewis was a superior boxer with great footwork and a short compact punch that Fury wouldn't be able top handle. Marciano would get inside on Fury and batter him without mercy. The only way Fury beats Marciano is to avoid engaging with him. Marciano was a fighter who was throwing punches in the later rounds with the same power he threw them in round one and with the same ferocity, Fury would not be able to stand against the onslaught, Marciano by KO by round 13. Most boxing historians rate Ali and Lewis as the two best heavyweights that have ever fought with Sonny Liston being in the mix as well. Ring Magazine's List of the top heavyweight boxers of all time does not include Tyson Fury. Fury has yet to prove himself over the log haul although I'd probably put him at number 15 or so. So my opinion is based on my personal eye test and the expert opinion of those with the credentials I trust.

[champion4ever]

My values have nothing to do with it, u think I'm a racist just cos I don't believe it, but I've supported many black fighters in boxing over the years, and have never seen race as a huge factor in anything I've done in my life, or people I know have done in theirs, I just have a problem with people who always make out race is a factor in everything, because that's never been my reality in life and this isn't coming from someone who's stayed in one city there whole life, I've lived in cities all over the world and the very little race issues I've come across have been directed towards white people rather than the other way around so that's where my animosity towards constant race baiters comes from, that doesn't make me racist and neither does the fact I don't believe ldbc, or wilder after he realised ldbc had a new excuse ready made for him

Once again, I've never once broached the topic of race but you did. All I am saying is that you are partial in your beliefs because you are a Tyson Fury fan which is very understandable. Every boxing fan has their favorites, likes and dislikes. Since my interaction with you; That's all you've done is bring up the topic race and the LDBC when discussing your favorite fighter to deflect from his alleged crimes and iniquities against Deontay Wilder.

[champion4ever]

why would top hw bother with the old cuban senior citizen now? Been Ko’d twice by Wilder and went distance with b-level Scott and Hammer and ancient now …no credit to b gained . And Wlad last 2 losses were against CURRENT champs - one of which whipped Wilder twice - no shame in that!

You tell me. Ortiz has been calling out the elites of the Heavyweight division for years including: Anthony Joshua, Dillian Whyte and Andy Ruiz and they have all ducked him and my question is why? It's also why he is still considered the bogeyman of the division because everyone is still afraid of him and doesn't want to fight him.

[champion4ever]

Lad, you’re arguing with someone who literally said that wilder is trying to start a “race war”…..why even bother wasting time on such a pedantic mental patient? The level of both emotion and delusion on some of these posters on here is staggering. There are without a doubt some people on here who have legitimate mood and personality disorders with some very serious symptoms

Thank you, you are right and I agree. Their hatred for Wilder runs extremely deep. Obviously, this dude is ****** and needs educating.

[champion4ever]

In the second fight I saw Wilder being beaten to the punch repeatedly by a faster, wilier boxer. And I saw him get tired early from having to contend with a big lump leaning on him in the clinch.

Sad to hear that you think he was also complicit in his defeat by not bothering to focus properly.

As Breland has already revealed, he wasn't training properly, so I think you're also probably right that his motivation wasn't in the right place training-wise. As for this third fight, the proof of the pudding is in the eating -- we won't really know about how well prepared he is until the bell rings. Maybe he'll get tired early again tussling with the lump; maybe he won't. I'm looking forward to finding out.

Or just maybe the referee would do the right thing this time by disqualifying his ass.