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  • Originally posted by I have no ears View Post

    I had to Google what palokas meant haha, but it's interesting to see how heavyweights have evolved over the years with them preferring to be light back in the day, whereas today the three top heavy's are all above 6'5 and pretty heavy, wilder to a lesser extent.

    I think prime foreman would really give fury problems, I don't wanna say he would beat him for definite but if there's any past heavy that I would bet on to do the job on him it would be him
    I thought the term was "big palooka"?

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    • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

      No, you had brought up the fact that both Fury and Wilder best wins came against old men and I had to stop you there because one of those old men just so happened to have been an undefeated title contender at the time and to this day; Still none of the top heavyweight contenders will fight him even now. Wlad on the other hand, was a shop worn, washed up and old heavyweight champion who lost the last two fights of his career.
      why would top hw bother with the old cuban senior citizen now? Been Ko’d twice by Wilder and went distance with b-level Scott and Hammer and ancient now …no credit to b gained . And Wlad last 2 losses were against CURRENT champs - one of which whipped Wilder twice - no shame in that!
      Last edited by IRONCHINHAGLER; 06-22-2021, 05:43 PM.

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      • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        He's only speaking the truth. Why are you attempting to suppress the truth?
        Lad, you’re arguing with someone who literally said that wilder is trying to start a “race war”…..why even bother wasting time on such a pedantic mental patient? The level of both emotion and delusion on some of these posters on here is staggering. There are without a doubt some people on here who have legitimate mood and personality disorders with some very serious symptoms

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        • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

          Sorry for the spelling it should be palooka.
          Foreman was something... Frankly as intimidating as Tyson was, Foreman had a legit mean streak a mile wide. Norman Mailer wrote a great article on him and pointed out that Foreman had/has shark eyes. Tyson liked the sport, and you could take him out of his search and destroy attitude with an appeal to history, etc. Lewis spoke about how tyson loved to talk about studying the great fighters. Richard Pryer described Foreman coming into the ring to fight Ali: Pryer says, "So... Big George comes in looks around and says 'which one the referee?' Good cause im gonna kill the other mther fker."
          Young George Foreman really was a mean SOB. It's quite the contrast with the older genial George we got later. There's a video on you tube with genial George telling an interviewer of the mean things he did when he was younger and there's the permanent smile plastered to his face... And that smile is a little disconcerting in itself! It's kind of consciously held in place.
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          • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
            He was both roughed up and not motivated, focused, determined or hungry in his first two fights with Tyson Fury. He became complacent. in addition, to being cheated and done dirty by Fury. You've seen the evidence have you?
            In the second fight I saw Wilder being beaten to the punch repeatedly by a faster, wilier boxer. And I saw him get tired early from having to contend with a big lump leaning on him in the clinch.

            Sad to hear that you think he was also complicit in his defeat by not bothering to focus properly.

            As Breland has already revealed, he wasn't training properly, so I think you're also probably right that his motivation wasn't in the right place training-wise. As for this third fight, the proof of the pudding is in the eating -- we won't really know about how well prepared he is until the bell rings. Maybe he'll get tired early again tussling with the lump; maybe he won't. I'm looking forward to finding out.

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            • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

              What? Do you need me to spell it out for you? You've seen all the glove tampering evidence in both fights. Why are you acting like you are naive or if this is something new to you for? Are you in denial too?
              Lol what a bum you are. Every serious person in boxing thinks it's all bull****.

              You're a bum, dosser, and the king of the Bumsquad is getting retired in 4 weeks. Another nightmarish beat down.

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              • Originally posted by I have no ears View Post

                And you're reasons for 2 guys who are more like light heavyweights of this era being able to beat fury are?
                Much better fighters, that be the reason

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                • You seem to want to deify Fury and there really is no reason to do it. He is big and a good boxer who beat Wilder on a very off night. Where was this indomitable killer in the Otto Wallin fight? Do you think Otto would have troubled Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes or even Lyle or Shavers? Really. Don't let Fury's one night stand against Wilder the second time define him. See how he stands the test of time and different styles before you elevate him to "great" status. He certainly hasn't earned it at this point. Be real. I still think he looks like a stork imitating a hummingbird. No grace whatsoever.

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                  • Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

                    Much better fighters, that be the reason
                    Care to elaborate further

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                    • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      No, that's not what you said you were inferring about my ***uality and that I was Wilder's bitch! By saying "you are so in love" in shit.

                      You may be into the type of kinky, freakish gay shit but I'm not. I don't do men. I am simply not into that depraved and perverted shit. I'm only into women and pussy and not another man's dick.

                      I couldn't give a good Goddamned fuck about Wilder's love life, if he's a ******, who he is fucking. I am not in the least bit interested in that shit. I am only interested in what he does inside of a boxing ring.
                      Wow, that's defensive, that response sounds like a man that's secretly in love, champ, let it out brother, we're all inclusive here, ask oldskoolf*g

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