Usyk will beat joshua wide on scorecards

[Robbie Barrett]

YDKSAB, pure and simple. I never once said anything about any Commission ---> never said the word, you did.

I've pushed your shet in so many times no I'm starting to lose count. You just quit the thread and keep trying but your arms are too short. Get your skirt on and get back on the track, you're only good at one thing which is blowin' Johns.

So why do you say it's not the US but the promoters? Clown. The judges aren't appointed by the promoter.

US has more robberies than the UK, especially in major fights. Make all the excuses you want, it's the truth.

[billeau2]

I think Usyk is the same weight as cruiserweight he doesn't cut weight to make 200 anymore. Why he looked slower and more sluggish is he has to respect the strength and power of larger men so he is more cautious in the ring. If he zigs when he should have zagged he could be ko'd badly or so out of it he will be ko'd swiftly.

A large component of his game at cruiser was his strength. As you say, he cannot use that strength the same way as a heavyweight. One thing about usyk is he makes adjustments.

[billeau2]

No Brit wants to admit it as we have the two best HWs there at least arguably but truth be told the division is shocking.

Top 10 HWs like that Polish fella that looks like one of those inflatable clowns you knock over who was being lined up for a HW title shot, like good Lord.
Good pub fighter, all he is & probably second rate to someone else down his local.

Povetkin couldn't even beat a CW Marco Huck
Yet aged 91 he's wobbling and one punch K.Oing supposed top HWs.

Maybe they just aren't very good, clear as day to me and Povetkin was a second rate HW in arguably the weakest ever HW era and that was when he was prime and healthy.
The fact he's actually getting the biggest win of his career a decade on is telling of this era.

Hey watch those sacred cows feller! Povatkin is that "go to guy" to show how good the division is! For example, Vlad and Joshua are the best ever... and Fury is garbage because: They beat the Russian! and lets not forget Whyte who after much true grit and will beat the wobbly Russian and then breathlessly asked Fast Eddie for "an easy fight" next time round. Povatkin has been an elephant in the room. Nobody dare state the obvious: he never was that good. I mean he was an excellent fighter but in terms of the wider picture? he would barely register a blip at a time when the division was competative.

[billeau2]

YDKSAB, pure and simple. I never once said anything about any Commission ---> never said the word, you did.

I've pushed your shet in so many times no I'm starting to lose count. You just quit the thread and keep trying but your arms are too short. Get your skirt on and get back on the track, you're only good at one thing which is blowin' Johns.

Good luck arguing with ****** Robbie. Dude is thick as a brick. Asks former professional fighters why they think they have a qualified opinion about boxing...

[Zelda]

Basically, Usyk has to do what Andy did in the first fight. Throw in combinations with very fast hands and do not let Joshua get his bearings after 1-2 punches. If he can knock Joshua down AND keep the pressure on, he has a chance. If he tries to throw fewer but more power punches, Joshua will recover as he did against Wlad. Go for fast combinations, target the temple, go to the back of the head if necessary, anything and everything to not let Joshua get his bearings. IF he tries to outbox Joshua and think of winning a decision in the UK, he is fighting a losing battle.

Can Usyk do it? pretty unlikely. That is just how I see their styles. I give Usyk about a 10-15% chance of winning.

[dan_cov]

obviously you did not watch Joshua brutalise pulev in his last fight ? Safety first ? No it’s called breaking your opponent down and then clinically taking them apart.....also safety first when Joshua had pulev turning his back on him after taking a beating after 3 rounds.....as I said up you don’t know what the **** your talking about.
joshua learnt from rushing in and getting caught recklessly and now does it in the right fashion .....it’s called experience the only thing you have been right about is there no great heavyweights in the division at the moment.....but it’s safe to say if Joshua or fury cleans out the division then they will definitely be considered a great.
here you are grading a fighter or fighters whose career is less than 23 fights and you realise how ****** you are saying this lol

I actually would say that was a safety first performance & he could/probably should have got Pulev out of there a good 5 or so rounds before he did. He let him off the hook several times.
Only 23 fights but they're the finished article. AJ is 32 this year he's as good as he is ever going to be.

Those two aren't far from being great in some sense & feel Fury matches up well to a lot of the older generation head-to-head but this era has to be taken into consideration massively much like Wladimirs was.

[War Room]

So why do you say it's not the US but the promoters? Clown. The judges aren't appointed by the promoter.

US has more robberies than the UK, especially in major fights. Make all the excuses you want, it's the truth.

All the major fights are here, but the frequency of major fights vs all other fights IS LESS you ****** fcuk. Also, if you don't think Hearn can fix a fight on US soil, your underpants are soiled.

Promoters and Managers have control over the judges, you're just too full of cum to see it. You're on the outside looking in, you're a kid who's never been laid without paying. I've made 10's of 1000's of dollars on fixes.

Promotional and managements have these things called connections right. Do you know what being connected means? Not all refs and judges can be fixed.

The oldest trick in the book is hosting in another country like Australia and people think Oo Horne got the win because Manny was in AU. No, Manny got the loss because he was at the end of his contract with top rank.

Many sensed trouble because Bob Arum’s Top Rank promotion was left out in the cold. Pacquiao was quick to pull the trigger, insisting that the July 2017 fight with Jeff Horn was his last under his five-fight, 2014 deal with Top Rank.

Top Rank has done that a few times to Manny, especially the Bradley loss. Top Rank used to make a whopping 28% on Manny when percentages are usually way lower for other fighters, around 15% - 18%.

Judges and refs make very little money so an envelope of cash isn't hard to weasle in if they play ball. But there is a system to it, you can't fix every single fight here because Joe Public isn't a total idiot.

The UK, ref's are way easier to fix and the domestic fights ---> judges there are the easiet to fix. ******** is legal there, which changes everything. It's not all legal in the US. You just don't get it because you've got no experience, you just know what you see on the tele and what you read here. You're a kid, am I wrong? Like, why do you think you know every single thing about boxing when you're so young. I'm old enough to be your father. Like I'm making it up for no reason.

You ever notice that you seem to never be wrong? Don't you think that's odd? People like you are too easy to whip on. Look in the mirror son, you're a fake.

[Robbie Barrett]

All the major fights are here, but the frequency of major fights vs all other fights IS LESS you ****** fcuk. Also, if you don't think Hearn can fix a fight on US soil, your underpants are soiled.

Promoters and Managers have control over the judges, you're just too full of cum to see it. You're on the outside looking in, you're a kid who's never been laid without paying. I've made 10's of 1000's of dollars on fixes.

Promotional and managements have these things called connections right. Do you know what being connected means? Not all refs and judges can be fixed.

The oldest trick in the book is hosting in another country like Australia and people think Oo Horne got the win because Manny was in AU. No, Manny got the loss because he was at the end of his contract with top rank.

Many sensed trouble because Bob Arum’s Top Rank promotion was left out in the cold. Pacquiao was quick to pull the trigger, insisting that the July 2017 fight with Jeff Horn was his last under his five-fight, 2014 deal with Top Rank.

Top Rank has done that a few times to Manny, especially the Bradley loss. Top Rank used to make a whopping 28% on Manny when percentages are usually way lower for other fighters, around 15% - 18%.

Judges and refs make very little money so an envelope of cash isn't hard to weasle in if they play ball. But there is a system to it, you can't fix every single fight here because Joe Public isn't a total idiot.

The UK, ref's are way easier to fix and the domestic fights ---> judges there are the easiet to fix. ******** is legal there, which changes everything. It's not all legal in the US. You just don't get it because you've got no experience, you just know what you see on the tele and what you read here. You're a kid, am I wrong? Like, why do you think you know every single thing about boxing when you're so young. I'm old enough to be your father. Like I'm making it up for no reason.

You ever notice that you seem to never be wrong? Don't you think that's odd? People like you are too easy to whip on. Look in the mirror son, you're a fake.

You're just trying to stick the blame elsewhere. If it happens in the US it's the US. The US is the place where most robberies happen. No excuses. You started this argument in the other thread, so don't be crying now. For every major robbery you name in the UK i can name many more in the US. Same with drug cheats. The whole US sports is dirty as ****.

[War Room]

You're just trying to stick the blame elsewhere. If it happens in the US it's the US. The US is the place where most robberies happen. No excuses. You started this argument in the other thread, so don't be crying now. For every major robbery you name in the UK i can name many more in the US. Same with drug cheats. The whole US sports is dirty as ****.

Wrong, reread what I said. The frequency of robberies in the US is the least globally thats WHY WE'RE THE MECCA OF BOXING YOU CLOWN. You think the entire world would willingly come here if they couldn't win? They would just homecook more. Lots of money in UK fights, money has nothing to do with it. The fair stage is here. You're just too ****** to understand.

You're just a dirty UK stan that's never wrong and has no idea what the real game is like. Don't you think that's unusual, never being wrong ever?

Go fcuk off now choad.

[Robbie Barrett]

Wrong, reread what I said. The frequency of robberies in the US is the least globally thats WHY WE'RE THE MECCA OF BOXING YOU CLOWN. You think the entire world would willingly come here if they couldn't win? They would just homecook more. Lots of money in UK fights, money has nothing to do with it. The fair stage is here. You're just too ****** to understand.

You're just a dirty UK stan that's never wrong and has no idea what the real game is like. Don't you think that's unusual, never being wrong ever?

Go fcuk off now choad.

The least globally? You mean the most. Google and pick any list of biggest boxing robberies and tell me which country has the most, more than the rest of the world on the list combined. B..b...but it's the promoters. US fighters start 3 rounds ahead when fighting a foreign fighter in the US. Don't throw stones in glass houses.