Usyk will beat joshua wide on scorecards

[The plunger man]

Half that list has glass jaws also or twice as many fights as AJ against competition absolutely lightyears ahead of the muck of this era that AJ has been fighting.

Not really I've made multiple bets with people on here Rigondeaux vs Donaire, Matthysse vs Peterson among others, not one paid. Rather bet at the bookies where I'll firstly get better odds and secondly get paid.

Excuse me .....Holmes was dropped by renaldo snipes , Ali by Cooper , fury by Cunningham , lewis by rachman , ....so let’s not talk about competition.
Heavyweights get hit with big punches and they get hurt but I guess you have selective memory with certain fighters.

you don’t want to bet then how convenient......but I guess when Joshua overpowers him I’m sure your keep away from this forum for a few weeks out of embarrassment and I am sure your try and find another boxer to back against Joshua.

what a clown

[dan_cov]

Excuse me .....Holmes was dropped by renaldo snipes , Ali by Cooper , fury by Cunningham , lewis by rachman , ....so let’s not talk about competition.
Heavyweights get hit with big punches and they get hurt but I guess you have selective memory with certain fighters.

you don’t want to bet then how convenient......but I guess when Joshua overpowers him I’m sure your keep away from this forum for a few weeks out of embarrassment and I am sure your try and find another boxer to back against Joshua.

what a clown

They also shipped massive punches from HOF & ATG fighters and punches and didn't do the stanky leg everytime they got clipped.

Why would I stay away? I don't care about putting myself out there and getting a prediction wrong. It wouldn't be the first nor the last. The thing is it always goes like this then they start with childish name calling in hope of enticing you into betting just cause their feelings are hurt you've said something about their fancymen when they have absolutely zero intentions of honoring their word should they lose.

Then will come the old ''Come on then b1tch, lets have an account bet den loser leaves forever'' Like Jesus, get a grip you wet wipe.

[whollisboxing]

There was nothing to suggest Andy Ruiz would decimate AJ either.

Usyks speed & ability to punch off angles will give AJ fits, he moves in straight lines, is stiff as a board & clearly hasn't a good chin at all.
Everyone with a little speed/timing catches him at some point and seems to hurt him.

Andy Ruiz did have fast hands though and AJ made the mistake of trying to exchange in close. Joshua made adjustments in the rematch and I just don’t know how Usyk would deal with THAT version of AJ. Either way it’s a good fight and I hope we see it next.

[The plunger man]

They also shipped massive punches from HOF & ATG fighters and punches and didn't do the stanky leg everytime they got clipped.

Why would I stay away? I don't care about putting myself out there and getting a prediction wrong. It wouldn't be the first nor the last. The thing is it always goes like this then they start with childish name calling in hope of enticing you into betting just cause their feelings are hurt you've said something about their fancymen when they have absolutely zero intentions of honoring their word should they lose.

Then will come the old ''Come on then b1tch, lets have an account bet den loser leaves forever'' Like Jesus, get a grip you wet wipe.

almost every time a heavyweight gets hit clean on the chin with a big shot he will react.....that’s unless your George chuvalo , Chuck Wepner or ray mercer and each Joshua got caught they were massive shots.....we’ve seen fury hit and wobbled on many occasion....so be consistent and as I said if your that confident back usyk against Joshua.
certain and I’m willing to bet against you

[dan_cov]

almost every time a heavyweight gets hit clean on the chin with a big shot he will react.....that’s unless your George chuvalo , Chuck Wepner or ray mercer and each Joshua got caught they were massive shots.....we’ve seen fury hit and wobbled on many occasion....so be consistent and as I said if your that confident back usyk against Joshua.
certain and I’m willing to bet against you

Where is the inconsistency? I don't think Fury has the best of chins either!
None of these HWs of today can take a shot like they could way back - Tua, McCall, Ali, Foreman, Chuvalo, Mercer, Holyfield, Ibeabuchi, Bowe just to name a few.

Fury has been dropped Pajik, Cunningham, Wilder twice (gets a pass there) & hurt by Chisora and Wallin among others who can't punch. I'm not suggesting Fury's chin is much if any better but I'll argue his ability to see punches coming, to take the heat out of shots and to recover are far greater.

Tell you the truth I think the whole division sucks and its one of if not the weakest HW eras in history.

Fans just want to keep pretending like Parker is so good and Povetkin aged 91 is some ATG or something. No the division sucks and they're all vulnerable as hell in their own ways. There is no true great HW there.

[War Room]

I just want to call if before it happens, is all-

UK fixes fights, wake up. Ain't that right?
Robbie Barrett

[dan_cov]

No Brit wants to admit it as we have the two best HWs there at least arguably but truth be told the division is shocking.

Top 10 HWs like that Polish fella that looks like one of those inflatable clowns you knock over who was being lined up for a HW title shot, like good Lord.
Good pub fighter, all he is & probably second rate to someone else down his local.

Povetkin couldn't even beat a CW Marco Huck
Yet aged 91 he's wobbling and one punch K.Oing supposed top HWs.

Maybe they just aren't very good, clear as day to me and Povetkin was a second rate HW in arguably the weakest ever HW era and that was when he was prime and healthy.
The fact he's actually getting the biggest win of his career a decade on is telling of this era.

[just the facts]

No Brit wants to admit it as we have the two best HWs there at least arguably but truth be told the division is shocking.

Top 10 HWs like that Polish fella that looks like one of those inflatable clowns you knock over who was being lined up for a HW title shot, like good Lord.
Good pub fighter, all he is & probably second rate to someone else down his local.

Povetkin couldn't even beat a CW Marco Huck
Yet aged 91 he's wobbling and one punch K.Oing supposed top HWs.

Maybe they just aren't very good, clear as day to me and Povetkin was a second rate HW in arguably the weakest ever HW era and that was when he was prime and healthy.
The fact he's actually getting the biggest win of his career a decade on is telling of this era.

I always respect your opinion but I think you got this one wrong. I just don't think Usyk has the power of size to keep Joshua off him.

[low blows]

I'm with you... So I hear people say things like "Chisora (as they gasp for air) such a pressure fighter! unlike Joshua." Really? Chisora certainly tries to apply constant pressure, but what he did against usyk seemed more like winging looping shots, while usyk went straight back to avoid and even got clipped a few times.

usyk was a fantastic cruiser... Looking at tape I might have picked the cruiser version of him to beat Spinks... He was physical, had angles, fast feet, head movement. I don't see any of that as a heavy weight. I think Usyk is strong and he needs to be physical to fight at his best, somethng he cannot do at heavyweight.

I think Usyk is the same weight as cruiserweight he doesn't cut weight to make 200 anymore. Why he looked slower and more sluggish is he has to respect the strength and power of larger men so he is more cautious in the ring. If he zigs when he should have zagged he could be ko'd badly or so out of it he will be ko'd swiftly.

[dan_cov]

I always respect your opinion but I think you got this one wrong. I just don't think Usyk has the power of size to keep Joshua off him.

AJ is very safety first these days & has adopted a more amateur style.
I don't think Usyk will have to keep AJ off him & if AJ does try impose himself he'll get lit up.
He will completely befuddle AJ with his feints, level changing and lateral movement.

I think he schools him and stylistically a much easier fight than Chisora who will walk through fire to get his shots off. Chisora is much more physical and stronger. AJ can no doubt lift a lot but he isn't physically strong (there is actually a difference).

If Joyce couldn't walk him down and impose himself how on earth is this guy whose afraid to take a hit going to?

He's too wooden.
Usyks angles & ability to punch off of them will make AJ look every bit as robotic as he is.

If there is one top HW Usyk can and almost certainly will its AJ. He's seen lots of guys just like AJ in the amateurs, he has spent years training with Wladimir. AJ seen one who bared some sort of resemblance to an Usyk and he got battered & stopped.
I think he still has a lot of those flaws and more or less fights the same way only holds his shape a lot better.
I still see the same tells, the same pushing the right hand & so on. He's the finished article but still has a lot of amateurish habits that wasn't drilled out.