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  • War Room
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    #81
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

    The least globally? You mean the most. Google and pick any list of biggest boxing robberies and tell me which country has the most, more than the rest of the world on the list combined. B..b...but it's the promoters. US fighters start 3 rounds ahead when fighting a foreign fighter in the US. Don't throw stones in glass houses.
    Learn to read: the least. Say the words ---> THE ---> LEAST.

    I don't watch UK trash fights because UK fighters blow and the homecooking blows too, but I do know there are loads and that nobody REAL wants to fight there regularly.

    Burden of prro or fcuk off my **** you shetstain.

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      #82
      Originally posted by War Room

      Learn to read: the least. Say the words ---> THE ---> LEAST.

      I don't watch UK trash fights because UK fighters blow and the homecooking blows too, but I do know there are loads and that nobody REAL wants to fight there regularly.

      Burden of prro or fcuk off my **** you shetstain.
      You made the claim UK was dirtier originally but i need to provide proof, you don't? As i keep saying just google worst robberies and you'll find plenty. You called me in here turd.

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      • The plunger man
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        #83
        Originally posted by dan_cov


        I actually would say that was a safety first performance & he could/probably should have got Pulev out of there a good 5 or so rounds before he did. He let him off the hook several times.
        Only 23 fights but they're the finished article. AJ is 32 this year he's as good as he is ever going to be.

        Those two aren't far from being great in some sense & feel Fury matches up well to a lot of the older generation head-to-head but this era has to be taken into consideration massively much like Wladimirs was.
        Lennox Lewis never peaked till 35....klitchcko never peaked till 35.....it’s common knowledge heavyweights mature in the mid 30’s.
        joshua is improving with his stamina , patience and footwork and to say he is the finished article is waffle.
        He has the best resume in the division and has 2 years till he reaches his peak .....he never turned pro till his 24th birthday so he has zero mileage on his clock.
        as for fury he has no intention of fighting Joshua because he knows he will get sparked......fury got ragdolled by him even when Joshua was an amateur and there is a reason why fury has just turned his back on a 100 million dollar purse.


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          #84
          Originally posted by War Room

          Learn to read: the least. Say the words ---> THE ---> LEAST.

          I don't watch UK trash fights because UK fighters blow and the homecooking blows too, but I do know there are loads and that nobody REAL wants to fight there regularly.

          Burden of prro or fcuk off my **** you shetstain.
          USA has the worst history of judging in the world........by far

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            #85
            Originally posted by The plunger man
            Lennox Lewis never peaked till 35....klitchcko never peaked till 35.....it’s common knowledge heavyweights mature in the mid 30’s.
            joshua is improving with his stamina , patience and footwork and to say he is the finished article is waffle.
            He has the best resume in the division and has 2 years till he reaches his peak .....he never turned pro till his 24th birthday so he has zero mileage on his clock.
            as for fury he has no intention of fighting Joshua because he knows he will get sparked......fury got ragdolled by him even when Joshua was an amateur and there is a reason why fury has just turned his back on a 100 million dollar purse.


            Nobody in history has ever peaked at 35, what a load of tosh.
            At their peak despite the wear & tear, lower testosterone levels and hormones? Nobodies reflexes, speed or anything in any sport are the same when 35 as they were when younger.

            Best resume? Fury has two wins better than anyone he has beaten, arguably 3.
            I'm not even joking when I say Otto Wallin would probably edge someone like Parker. A past prime Chisora just did in my eyes.

            Of course he has mileage, his whole body could be failing him and falling apart behind the scenes for all we know.

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              #86
              Lewis peaked at 35 lol
              So he peaked right towards the tale end of his career when getting starched by Rahman?

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                #87
                So Lewis didn't peak until after a lengthy amateur career, all those decades of wear & tear in the gym, countless injuries, having around 40 or more pro fights including 20 odd at world level. Only then did he start to peak? Aged 35 no less.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by dan_cov


                  Nobody in history has ever peaked at 35, what a load of tosh.
                  At their peak despite the wear & tear, lower testosterone levels and hormones? Nobodies reflexes, speed or anything in any sport are the same when 35 as they were when younger.

                  Best resume? Fury has two wins better than anyone he has beaten, arguably 3.
                  I'm not even joking when I say Otto Wallin would probably edge someone like Parker. A past prime Chisora just did in my eyes.

                  Of course he has mileage, his whole body could be failing him and falling apart behind the scenes for all we know.
                  Lennox Lewis best performances were against against Holyfield , 34 years of age , Grant he was 35 ,Tua he was 35 , Rahman 36 , Tyson at 37 so again these are all performances where we really had the finished article in lennow Lewis’s and trained up version under Emanuel steward .....so again you don’t know ****......Joshua is still improving and probably has another 3 years before he reaches a level.
                  heavyweights to a certain degree do not need to have the intense reflexes of a lightweight or welterweight as they enter in to the mid 30’s.
                  do you actually know anything about boxing and the history or you just popped your head out the womb ?


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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The plunger man
                    Lennox Lewis best performances were against against Holyfield , 34 years of age , Grant he was 35 ,Tua he was 35 , Rahman 36 , Tyson at 37 so again these are all performances where we really had the finished article in lennow Lewis’s and trained up version under Emanuel steward .....so again you don’t know ****......Joshua is still improving and probably has another 3 years before he reaches a level.
                    heavyweights to a certain degree do not need to have the intense reflexes of a lightweight or welterweight as they enter in to the mid 30’s.
                    do you actually know anything about boxing and the history or you just popped your head out the womb ?




                    No athlete or otherwise is at their physical peak aged 35 by this age their testosterone levels on average will have dipped a good 5-10% as well as dopamine and leptin and that is just from around the time they were 30.

                    Without picking those performances to pieces which would be to easy, some boxers will have good or even great performances late in their career at advanced ages but lets not act like its not mainly down to having large physical advantages which Lewis sure had over all over them but Grant and favourable matchmaking.
                    Things like physical advantages, stylistically favourable match ups & fighting in a more measured approach can delay or masque it but the reality is nobody is physically at their peak aged 35.
                    They never was and never will be in your or my lifetime and no amount of telling anyone they know nothing about boxing will ever change that.

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                      #90
                      Give me more examples of HWs apparently being at their peak at 35.

                      There have been well over 100 averaging around 1 per year, it shouldn't be too difficult.

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