UFC n mma offically overtakes boxing

[Eff Pandas]

ok, ill set you a challenge, from the last 3 months give me a list of cards/dates and fights to prove the best were fightin the best.
if this was true there'd be no one else left to fight except repeat fights.

i don't buy that at all. unless you have a top 5-10 list and it's more like 'two top ten fighters fighting each other' in which case we get that in boxing all the time on all major promotions.

Its a common happening that the title holder in a division is fighting the best available contender virtually every time out so 1 vs 2 happens quite often in the UFC. Idk about the 4 or 5 times a month with the top two guys fighting each other thing, but every card its a 99% guarantee you'll have a top ten guy fight at the top of the card minimum. And its not uncommon to have multiple top two guys to multiple top 5 or 6 guys fights on a card.

These sports are setup entirely differently doe so it shouldn't be surprising that the UFC has better quality of content. And in general a UFC card is built from the main event to the early prelims with competitiveness in mind. Boxing rarely has done that in the decades I've been watching it. It quite often is a whole night of one corner being the favored corner with the winners & the other corner being cursed with the losers. Been to so many live events that went down just like that, blue corner was taking L's all night cuz it was a slew of solid guys to prospects vs guys with subpar records.

[Dip_Slide]

It's been that way even before COVID and during COVID the UFC totally pulled away since they were the only sport putting out content while everyone else wasn't. 1 year later big time boxing still really hasn't come back and the names that were carrying the sport lost a lot of popularity since people forget about them and due to the fans being tired of all the politics. I think sooner or later the bills will accumulate and the fighters will demand the big fights.

[TMLT87]

No you weren't. You talk like a 20 year old MMA fan.

If you say so. Absolutely zero relevance to the discussion either way.

[TMLT87]

It's been that way even before COVID and during COVID the UFC totally pulled away since they were the only sport putting out content while everyone else wasn't. 1 year later big time boxing still really hasn't come back and the names that were carrying the sport lost a lot of popularity since people forget about them and due to the fans being tired of all the politics. I think sooner or later the bills will accumulate and the fighters will demand the big fights.

I think Floyd/Pac was the turning point. The way that fight was built with them fighting a lot of the same opponents etc kept people interested for a long time. Then after like 6-7 years of milking the **** out of it they finally let go of the ace in the hole, and by that time its two guys pushing 40, and it sucks. Then a few months after that Floyd more or less retires and Conor knocks out Aldo in 13 seconds. Since then the Canelo/GGG fights and Fury/Wilder 2 are pretty much the only fights in almost 6 years that have moved the needle to the same extent that a typical Floyd or Pac fight would in like 2007-15, or a typical Conor fight does today.

[BodyBagz]

Isn't this like a McDonalds fan going into one of these places

https://www.businessinsider.com/best-burgers-in-america-2015-5

saying how McDonalds is #1 ?

[TMLT87]

Isn't this like a McDonalds fan going into one of these places

https://www.businessinsider.com/best...america-2015-5

saying how McDonalds is #1 ?

Its more like people who eat at multiple of those places discussing their relative merits and/or which is doing better business, while at a private table, and then someone who only ever eats at that one restaurant keeps coming over to the table and asking them to **** off.

[Inspired]

Its a common happening that the title holder in a division is fighting the best available contender virtually every time out so 1 vs 2 happens quite often in the UFC. Idk about the 4 or 5 times a month with the top two guys fighting each other thing, but every card its a 99% guarantee you'll have a top ten guy fight at the top of the card minimum. And its not uncommon to have multiple top two guys to multiple top 5 or 6 guys fights on a card.

These sports are setup entirely differently doe so it shouldn't be surprising that the UFC has better quality of content. And in general a UFC card is built from the main event to the early prelims with competitiveness in mind. Boxing rarely has done that in the decades I've been watching it. It quite often is a whole night of one corner being the favored corner with the winners & the other corner being cursed with the losers. Been to so many live events that went down just like that, blue corner was taking L's all night cuz it was a slew of solid guys to prospects vs guys with subpar records.

ufc is centralised and has been focused on building a sub-culture from the ground floor with astrong social media focus, without the toxic crap that boxing has inc the corruption, the racism between hispanics, blacks and even whites that plagues the sport.

i see it a bit like british boxing culture which has been built up fairly recently in the current era mostly through matchroom.

you can talk about levels and competitiveness, doesnt mean a lot since levels are relative. it's hard to gauge levels on a sport that's only just found it's feet. for example a guy from cameroon, a guy from nigeria and another from dagestan go top of the foodchain in the ufc without even breaking a sweat..that tells me it is paper thin in talent.

the social media and marketing focus means ufc can quickly built up a star and a rivalry, with a very vocal sub-culture to back it up online.

imagine boxing's hw division with only whyte and povetkin..and a few other ave guys. Matchroom having the same model they have in the uk, in the US. That fight getting made with all the backing from a powerful network like espn, with millions spent on marketing them.
that's the ufc.

[Albanianboxing]

The thing that I think that really shows this is not true is that Top level fighters (Canelo, Fury, Anthony Joshua, and still even Manny Pacquiao) are the highest paid fighters in the world. Boxing pay structure and set up is not great at all but mma and more specifically the ufc I really believe is in very very big trouble. They are being sued now in an anti-trust case and only 15% of the revenue goes to fighters. No dictatorship has stood the test of time... With all that said I think Boxing and ufc are neck and neck in America with probably a slight edge to ufc. But worldwide Boxing is on a different level than ufc in terms of popularity.

One thing that I think people have to really take into account when making statements like this is that Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua are going to be the #1 and #2 Highest Paid Athletes in All of Sports. Canelo Alvarez will also be very very highly ranked on the list. The only mma fighter to ever make the Forbes 100 Highest Paid Athletes List is Conor. The highest he ever was when he was in a Boxing match...

Next year the Highest Paid Fighters in the world will be Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua (can flip flop on who wins) and Canelo Alvarez. This for all Combat Sports (Boxing and mma).

[Mask]

Boxing has been very stagnant lately. Nothing of importance is happening in the sport and none of the elite fights are close to happening. So it's popularity fluctuates and the fans suffer.

In the ufc we atleast get to see big fights being made

[rickJen]

Showtime just added MMA to its programming doe.
Mauro Ranallo is hosting the show. Fox will probably follow suit.