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  • First of all, I'm filipino and a diehard PACQUIAO fan (to some of you haters a PAC NUTHUGGER) but I have to side with COTTO's camp for dis*****g the catchweight if their gonna fight for his title. It about the principal here not about the ****in contract. If PACQUIAO wants to win his 7th division title, then Cotto should be allowed to weigh in at the welterweight limit of 147lbs. I have to tell the truth and not be biased. Let's not be hyprocrites here people, cause if it was the other way around PACQUIAO would do the same thing. Besides, I think PACQUIAO has a chance of beating COTTO even if he weighed in at 147lbs, plus all the PACQUIAO haters won't be ****in makin ****** ass excuses on why COTTO lost the fight. Bottomline personal pride aside, if the belt is on the line then COTTO should be allowed to weigh in at the welterweight limit of 147lbs. Anyway you look at it people, if you challenge a champion in a certain division for the belt, that defending champion should be able to weigh in at the max limit, which in this case 147lbs.

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    • Originally posted by ThunderWolf View Post
      Not an iota of truth here. No contracts has been signed yet and it was made clear on the onset by the Pac Team via Bob Arum, the agreement was for a title fight. When the contract draft came, there was nothing in black-n-white about this very important detail.

      In fact Pacquiao was about to back out from the fight due to breaches made, and announcements made without informing the Team.

      Since then, Arum had been singing a different tune.
      Contract signed or not signed, fair is fair...if the title is on the line, then COTTO should be allowed to weigh in at 147lbs. Let's be real here people, cause if you were in Cotto's shoes you would be doing the same. Anyone who despute that logic, got to be a pathelogical liar or just ****in ******. Put the personal pride aside and tell the truth...and the truth is 147lbs is the welterweight limit. The belt is the welterweight, not jr welterweight.

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      • Originally posted by Datu Puti View Post
        First of all, I'm filipino and a diehard PACQUIAO fan (to some of you haters a PAC NUTHUGGER) but I have to side with COTTO's camp for dis*****g the catchweight if their gonna fight for his title. It about the principal here not about the ****in contract. If PACQUIAO wants to win his 7th division title, then Cotto should be allowed to weigh in at the welterweight limit of 147lbs. I have to tell the truth and not be biased. Let's not be hyprocrites here people, cause if it was the other way around PACQUIAO would do the same thing. Besides, I think PACQUIAO has a chance of beating COTTO even if he weighed in at 147lbs, plus all the PACQUIAO haters won't be ****in makin ****** ass excuses on why COTTO lost the fight. Bottomline personal pride aside, if the belt is on the line then COTTO should be allowed to weigh in at the welterweight limit of 147lbs. Anyway you look at it people, if you challenge a champion in a certain division for the belt, that defending champion should be able to weigh in at the max limit, which in this case 147lbs.
        Props to you for your objectivity.

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        • Originally posted by Datu Puti View Post
          ..147lbs is the welterweight limit. The belt is the welterweight, not jr welterweight.
          You sort of hung yourself there. If I say 141 is the welterweight limit and you say no, then you may lack something. Because a 108 pounder may not fight a 147 pounder with you calling it a world welterweight championship fight. What Henry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Leonard-Lalonde did was valid because they all agreed to the terms of the fight. The rights to defend was actually a choice of the sanctioning body, not the fighter.

          And if you are saying that 145 lbs. is a junior welterweight as you imply, it makes no sense, what you yourself wrote, because we are talkin about a welterweight fight all along, whether or not you are purposely blinding yourself that a 145 pounder is not a welterweight.

          But if you are stubborn enough that they fight at 147 lbs., then let your arrogance be humbled if the WBO invokes a same-day weigh-in as exemplified by the link below:

          http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=69

          They make the rules as proven above, and any of your logic won`t amount to much.

          And lastly, the WBO won`t just stand there and let Cotto fight a WELTERWEIGHT fight, while Cotto puts their belt in a closet temporarily (while earning a bundle for that fight and personally suspending the title belt for that time being). There are certain responsibilities for winning and wearing that belt and being exempted from it will not be allowed by the real owners of that belt, with Cotto just as custodian.

          And lastly, saying that there no minimum limits only maximum, to the welterweight division, is like saying that Cotto can win the junior ww title Pac holds if pacquiao weighs 140 while fighting Cotto at 147 max, which is utter nonesense.

          But of course again there was that Leonard-Lalonde whose single fight won Leonard 2 weight titles. Yes they all agreed, that`s why it was binding. In this case of Cotto-Pac, there seem to be a dis-agreement even before contracts are signed therefore Pacquiao can cancel the match anytime without any legal consequence. This is opposed to what you wrote, that it doesn`t matter if contracts are currently signed or not, nope, it really does matter, and of the utmost importance, except for you who obviously won`t be affected.

          Cotto should just be grateful Pacquiao didn`t challenge Cotto at 140, if ever it was even possible they could match up at all, for the fan`s sake.
          Last edited by ThunderWolf; 08-07-2009, 03:18 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Datu Puti View Post
            Contract signed or not signed, fair is fair...if the title is on the line, then COTTO should be allowed to weigh in at 147lbs. Let's be real here people, cause if you were in Cotto's shoes you would be doing the same. Anyone who despute that logic, got to be a pathelogical liar or just ****in ******. Put the personal pride aside and tell the truth...and the truth is 147lbs is the welterweight limit. The belt is the welterweight, not jr welterweight.
            The fight is a WW fight , title is on the line ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, then a separate issue the 145 catchweight is agreed upon by Cotto and payments for concessions are made , he cant have it both ways , if Cotto wants a big money catchweight fight and keep his title then it must be over 147 .

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            • Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
              Cotto has a WW belt, not a catchweight belt!!! Manny step up and allow Cotto to fight at the limit if you want a title fight! And this will be the end of it, but you want because it appears you have to fight weight drained or washed up fighters!
              Pacquiao is 136-140 champ. Cotto is 141-147 WBO champ. Pacquiao search for a fight. Cotto tell Pacquiao, come up to 145 and we fight. Pacquiao now agree to 145 and Cotto tell Pacquiao no belt. I thought you just told Pacquiao to come up to 145 and we fight for my title.

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              • Originally posted by Datu Puti View Post
                Contract signed or not signed, fair is fair...if the title is on the line, then COTTO should be allowed to weigh in at 147lbs. Let's be real here people, cause if you were in Cotto's shoes you would be doing the same. Anyone who despute that logic, got to be a pathelogical liar or just ****in ******. Put the personal pride aside and tell the truth...and the truth is 147lbs is the welterweight limit. The belt is the welterweight, not jr welterweight.
                I don't get it, some of you guys swear like Cotto was force to fight at 145. Pacquiao was searching for a fight and Cotto whisper out that if they meet up at 145 and no less Cotto would not have a problem. Now the fight is being made and Cotto seems to have a problem putting is belt on the line. Any where from 141-147 is welter, Cotto said 145 is good enough.

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                • All this is bull$h!t. Grumpy Arum should sort his $h!t out cause he's the one who made this happen. I mean we all knew that this bout was not for the title - Thats what Arum said. All of a sudden WBO wants to get paid and they're fu@!ng up the fight with their greed. Cotto has a point he must come in at his best to defend his title and not 2 pounds below his best. All you'll who think 2 pounds is easy try and lose a 1 pound after you've already dehydrated yourselves. In boxing making weight is not childs play - every piss or dump you take counts. Cotto should just vacate the belt and go after Mosley's belt.
                  They done made a phony into a superstar and now he wants to make history over beating weakened opponents - this includes Hatton who is weakened by all that warm Brittish beer.

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                  • Originally posted by civicvx View Post
                    I don't get it, some of you guys swear like Cotto was force to fight at 145. Pacquiao was searching for a fight and Cotto whisper out that if they meet up at 145 and no less Cotto would not have a problem. Now the fight is being made and Cotto seems to have a problem putting is belt on the line. Any where from 141-147 is welter, Cotto said 145 is good enough.
                    Cotto does not have a problem fighting at 145. He has a problem that he is being forced to fight for a 141-147 WBO title at 141-145. Do you now get it.

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                    • Originally posted by Talisayen View Post
                      Kid, can you write in English!!!
                      i'll speak Tagalog next time

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