Cotto Does Not Agree With The WBO's Weight Stance

[jetgeomcx]

Yeah Manny Pacquiao and Roach are looking for the most
beatable opponents, though I feel Cotto can beat Manny.

the most beatable and the on e who offers most $$$.
makes sense, mi amigo!!
try to put your feet in manny/freddie's shoes.

but roach wanted floyd the most...not anybody else!!
haven't you read that piece on freddie??

[jetgeomcx]

Do people forget that quickly that Pacquiao himself said in an article that he had agree to fight Cotto in a non title match because he understood that it wasn't at the WW limit? He also added that it didn't matter to him because he knew that it was going to be a war and a memorable figh. Which leaves me with the question: Why the sudden change of heart?

didn't you have a change of heart before.
that is human nature.....it happens to everybody, even on simple or trivial matters.
how much more this kind of history making decision/issue!!
...on second thought......""

[jetgeomcx]

What's the matter he's not old enough to make his own decisions????

seems like it is....
but pacman is good enough to whack cotto's ass....

[GRUSTLER]

cotto is better off negotitiating with manny.
do you wonder how much concession cotto can get if he is negotiating with floyd instead??

we will see how huge manny's and cotto's fans in vegas come fytnyt!!
new york is well populated by ricans..

I think Floyd is an easier person to negotiate with than Manny.

[Ray Lebron]

didn't you have a change of heart before.
that is human nature.....it happens to everybody, even on simple or trivial matters.
how much more this kind of history making decision/issue!!
...on second thought......""

Sir, I really don't have a problem with people changing their mind. But you see this verbal agreement had some implications like Cotto extending his contract and what not. I would put all the blame on Arum if it wasn't because of Manny's public reactions concerning the fight were he stated that he was ok with a 145lbs non-title fight. People were ok with it. Why complain about it now?

[jetgeomcx]

At whatever for whatever? You mean at 147?

Roaches job is to make all the details right, just like it is Cotto's and his management job to make sure they aren't totally screwed.

In my mind, Pacman isn't P4P best, get the picture? Losing to Marquez, beating weight drained De La Hoya and beating well past his prime Hatton doesn't make you P4P champion in my mind.

nobody cares what's in between your ears, brah...the same thing with me.
the ones that matter are the opinions of boxing critiques, scribes, judges, sports mags, espn, etc.
blame them all for making manny p4p king, BWAA boxer of the year, etc...

of course hatton did not make manny the p4p king!!
manny is already the p4p king before he fought hatton.

what else in your mind, brah???

[jetgeomcx]

I think Floyd is an easier person to negotiate with than Manny.

and i believe the contrary............
see how this early floyd is making posturings in his terms if he fyts manny.
we all know floyd is "the money man"...as he always claim.
he always say that he primarily fyts for money....

[jetgeomcx]

precedents!!

First of all, I'm filipino and a diehard PACQUIAO fan (to some of you haters a PAC NUTHUGGER) but I have to side with COTTO's camp for dis*****g the catchweight if their gonna fight for his title. It about the principal here not about the ****in contract. If PACQUIAO wants to win his 7th division title, then Cotto should be allowed to weigh in at the welterweight limit of 147lbs. I have to tell the truth and not be biased. Let's not be hyprocrites here people, cause if it was the other way around PACQUIAO would do the same thing. Besides, I think PACQUIAO has a chance of beating COTTO even if he weighed in at 147lbs, plus all the PACQUIAO haters won't be ****in makin ****** ass excuses on why COTTO lost the fight. Bottomline personal pride aside, if the belt is on the line then COTTO should be allowed to weigh in at the welterweight limit of 147lbs. Anyway you look at it people, if you challenge a champion in a certain division for the belt, that defending champion should be able to weigh in at the max limit, which in this case 147lbs.

friend, here's a list of title fyts done in catchwts...courtesy of friend GetSumBrah...thanks brah!

- whitaker vs cesar chavez for welter title @ 145lbs

- ray leonard vs danny lalonde for the super middle & lightheavy title under 175 & 168. @ 165lbs

- ray leonard vs tommy hearns 2 for the super middleweight title @ 163

- oscar hoya vs bernard hopkins for the middleweight championship @ 158lbs

- terry norris vs meldrick taylor for the juniormiddle belt @ 150lbs

only famous fyters, like pacman, can get away with catchwt in title fyt.

[Ray Lebron]

friend, here's a list of title fyts done in catchwts...courtesy of friend GetSumBrah...thanks brah!

- whitaker vs cesar chavez for welter title @ 145lbs

- ray leonard vs danny lalonde for the super middle & lightheavy title under 175 & 168. @ 165lbs

- ray leonard vs tommy hearns 2 for the super middleweight title @ 163

- oscar hoya vs bernard hopkins for the middleweight championship @ 158lbs

- terry norris vs meldrick taylor for the juniormiddle belt @ 150lbs

only famous fyters, like pacman, can get away with catchwt in title fyt.

There are no problems with catch-weight matches with titles on the line when both boxers agree to it. In this particular case one team wants to impose the other to make it a title fight when they had already reach a different agreement.

[shade darkar]

cotto is right. welterweight is 140.01 to 147lbs. not 140.01 to 145lbs. if pac wants the title on the line, then it should be a normal welterweight fight with a weigh inn limit of 147lbs. i dont see why pacquiao is making such a big deal about 145lbs and getting a title on the line. cotto will still probably weigh in at 146 if its a 147lb limit. not to mention that if the title is on the line at 145lbs and pac wins, then its a very cheap way to gain the title. whats next? the heavyweight title at a catchweight of 1lb?!!!!!!!!!