Why are Americans so negative about European fighters?

[ßringer]

That's still nationalism

No it's not, it's a bias.

I also rooted for Hopkins against every American I ever saw him fight.

[Riptor]

Damn, Fat Yanks.

Childishness returns to the thread, I am far too tired now to add more just go back and see my previous post about such things.

[ßringer]

na·tion·al·ism

1.) Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
2.) The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
3.) Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.

[Dynamite Kid]

Why are Americans always trying to put down our greatest fighters?? Like when I mention Steve Collins and how he was gonna fight Roy Jones. It's a fact Jones turned him down btw, as he turned down Nigel Benn. But you guys say "oh, Collins wasn't that good, he only had a good chin and heart". It's a fact that Europeans are all technically skilled fighters, the famous ones anyway. Yet somehow the Americans don't feel that way.

Same thing with Dariusz Tiger Michalczewski. This guy reigned for 9 years as champion and beat Virgil Hill, Montell Griffin, Richard Hall and Derrick Harmon, in other words top LHW's of that time; yet everybody in America thinks he's overated and that Jones would've easily beaten him. RJ, however talented, had a gift for avoiding dangerous European fighters and making it look as tho THEY were avoiding HIM. That is a fact also.

It seems like most Americans have a hard time accepting that Europe has its legends that could be just as great as the American ones. I've noticed also that Calzaghe is often belittled and criticised by American boxing fans. I never cared wether a fighter is American, European or from some other continent. If I like him, I like him because of his boxing skills and heart. And his behaviour outside the ring.

I think it comes down to who you have beaten and who they have beaten. You can go through Jones record and look at his best wins James Toney who beat Michael Nunn who beat Kalambay by knockout who beat Mike McCallum. Nunn also beat Juan Roldan, Don Curry, Iran Barklay and Marlon Starling.

Toney also beat McCallum twice(officially)i dont think he deserved to win those fights but thats another story, he also beat Evander Holyfield, Jirov and like Jones he beat Reggie Johnson who beat your man Steve Collins CLEARLY.

Reggie Johnson hardly won one round against Roy Jones.


Benn lost to Malinga, he should of had two losses to Malinga to imo. Roy destroyed Malinga.


Clinton Woods, Virgill Hill, Pazienza, Hopkins, Malinga, Griffin.

The reason you feel like Euro fighters dont get respect i because most of the time they dont face the best competition, where are prime elite fighters on Joe Calzaghe's record ? there are not ANY!!


Take Kessler's record and break it down like we did to Reggie Johnson beating Steve Collins or Nunn beating Starling who has wins over Honeyghan, Breland or Nunn's wins over Kalambay who has wins over Bomber Graham, Mike McCallum. Who has Kessler beaten ?

Eubank is the best name on Calzaghe's record and even he was past his best, he SHOULD of lost to Dan Schommer a journeyman and he did lose to Collins twice after that and as i pointed out Reggie Johnson handled Collins.

[BOLLOCKS]

Nationalism is ******ed.

[boxasmash]

Ignorance..........

[Dynamite Kid]

Im a Brit and i can tell you now that its majority of Brits on here that are obsessed with nationality, but lots of the Brits on here try to hide their nationalism by flipping it around and pretending its Americans who are nationalistic.

[bojangles1987]

I've said this in a different thread but I'm sorry if some offensive trolls on a boxing forum give everyone the idea we don't respect European fighters, but actual boxing fans do. The big problem is we are not exposed to many domestic fighters over there so we don't know them, just like the rest of the world has no idea about American fighters because they do not see them. In that case people should keep their mouth shut about fighters they don't know.

[boxasmash]

Enjoy!

[Vasyl’s dad]

why are americans negative towards anything non american?


You'd have a better chance of finding out why water is wet.