Why are Americans so negative about European fighters?

[ßringer]

Everyone no matter where they are from hates Mayweather due to his brash trashtalking and classless behavior.

Boring and technical are often used to describe technical fighters, like Hopkins, Toney, Winky Wright and others but this should not be confused with Robotic. Many Euro fighters are Robotic not technical.

As for Good Euros out there, I would definitely put my hat in the Abraham bag. In fact I have a feeling he might take the crown in the 168 tourney. One thing I know is that Taylor, has probably the lowest chance to win and either kessler or Abraham will come out on top.

I agree on the robotic part, but it's only true with some of them. And a lot of people often get it twisted around here and consider a technical European fighter, like Kessler for insantance, to be robotic.

As for Abraham ; I don't think he'll win the Tourney. I'm not set on a winner but I'm leaning more towards Ward or Kessler.

But I'm definitely becoming a fan of his and look forward to seeing him in the tourney.

Like I said, when it comes to balls ; Abraham already has them all beat.

[ßringer]

For real though, and I don't mean this in a bad way ; European fight fans are the only ones who complain about a "bias" against their fighters and constantly make threads about it.

When's the last time you saw a Mexican post a thread here aimed at users from another Country, complaining about them not liking one of their fighters?

When the last time you saw a Pinoy do the same thing?

Or the Dominicans?

Or the Ricans?

Or the Americans?

Or the Chinese?

Or the Koreans?

Or the Japanese?

Or the Haitians?

Or the South Africans?

Or the Brazilians?

etc.....

I've never seen it.

[NakiFan]

Yeah but to be fair The Bringer All those other races, their fighters aren't constantly trashed like euro guys.

You name me one respected euro guy who americans will admit is better than most of their guys.

But they will admit it about Duran, Barrera etc

[Manny Duckman]

Yeah but to be fair The Bringer All those other races, their fighters aren't constantly trashed like euro guys.

You name me one respected euro guy who americans will admit is better than most of their guys.

But they will admit it about Duran, Barrera etc

Lennox Lewis has owned all of great HW, he gets tonnes of credit.

And no. Duran and Barrera are not better than most of our guys. Most Americans fans don't rate Duran at all.

[Riptor]

Because Europeans notice when they enter a thread about one of their fighters and it's full of fat yank as$hole losers taking shots.

Awfully sensitive and childish there aren't we??

The really sad thing about the US is they have no great white fighters and the one great black fighter they have talks like such a d1ck in public and has such a horrible backtracking style that they hate him. So we see lots of sad piggybacking on other nations fighters like Pacquiao, Cotto, JMM etc as if they're American. No pride, just a bunch of sellout bandwagoners.

Great white fighters and black fighters? They are both in america they should just be american fighters right? no need to turn it into a racial thing/ division.

And they'll back anyone, anyone (even other Euro fighters) against the true warrior Ricky Hatton and the ultra-skilled Joe Calzaghe, two of the sport of boxing's leading lights in recent years.

When have Americans backed other Euro fighters against Ricky Hatton or Calzaghe? I don't remember seeing American flags with Kesslers name on them or Kostya Tszuys face sewn onto them when He fought Hatton. You are talking about America here right?

[street bully]

Yeah but to be fair The Bringer All those other races, their fighters aren't constantly trashed like euro guys.

You name me one respected euro guy who americans will admit is better than most of their guys.

But they will admit it about Duran, Barrera etc

Lennox Lewis. But we consider him canadian.

[shadeyfizzle]

Why are Americans always trying to put down our greatest fighters?? Like when I mention Steve Collins and how he was gonna fight Roy Jones. It's a fact Jones turned him down btw, as he turned down Nigel Benn. But you guys say "oh, Collins wasn't that good, he only had a good chin and heart". It's a fact that Europeans are all technically skilled fighters, the famous ones anyway. Yet somehow the Americans don't feel that way.

Same thing with Dariusz Tiger Michalczewski. This guy reigned for 9 years as champion and beat Virgil Hill, Montell Griffin, Richard Hall and Derrick Harmon, in other words top LHW's of that time; yet everybody in America thinks he's overated and that Jones would've easily beaten him. RJ, however talented, had a gift for avoiding dangerous European fighters and making it look as tho THEY were avoiding HIM. That is a fact also.

It seems like most Americans have a hard time accepting that Europe has its legends that could be just as great as the American ones. I've noticed also that Calzaghe is often belittled and criticised by American boxing fans. I never cared wether a fighter is American, European or from some other continent. If I like him, I like him because of his boxing skills and heart. And his behaviour outside the ring.

I'm american and Arthur Abraham is one of my top 3 favorite fighters right now. Last time I checked he was european. Armenian to be exact.

As far as your other beef the sport has been ruled and dominated by Americans throughout its history. But in hindsight World War 1,2 and the cold war prevented many potentially all time great material european fighters from ever being given proper opportunities to ever truly shine on a professional level. And even once they were able to they hardly took advantage of the opportunities to fight in the states until recently with guys like mcguigan, benn, etc etc. Im sure there have been american fighters like roy jones who avoided top european fighters but fact is they had the opportunity to get their foot in the door by fighting lower rated american fighters in their own backyard to showcase their abilities and earn recognition with the american fight fans and very rarely did they take full advantage of it.

It sucks but thats business. Americans make up most of the revenue networks like hbo, showtime, and the promotion companies generate so they make the rules. The fighters just play by them.

Take Pacquiao for example. Dude had already been a world champion at flyweight. Noone from the states knew or cared who he was. They thought he ****** so they used him as a sacrificial lamb 4 lehlonolo ledwaba who was a rising prospect that'd just recently got the ibf superbantamweight belt whose stardom hbo was trying to build. Like it or not we need more moments like that or Calzaghe vs Lacy in the sport so american audiences can truly see fighters from all over the world...not just europe can be just as great as the americans.

[ßringer]

Yeah but to be fair The Bringer All those other races, their fighters aren't constantly trashed like euro guys.

You name me one respected euro guy who americans will admit is better than most of their guys.

But they will admit it about Duran, Barrera etc

Honestly speaking ; we have more casual fans here than real boxing fans who watch every fight.

Therefore a lot of these guys who only know the big names are inclined to side with the more well known fighter, rather than the European guy who's carved out his rep in obscurity.

As for your question ; respect across the board almost never comes when a fighter is currently active, and especially not if he's dominating.

Look at all the disrespect for guys like Pacquiao, Mayweather, and Klitschko who dominate everybody they face and still get **** on for it.

Lennox Lewis is universally recognized as one of the top 10 Greatest Heavyweights of All Time ; but that respect didn't come until after he retired.

And it doesn't just go for Europeans, either. Muhammad Ali was hated on severely during his days at the top both for his accomplishments in the ring as well as his brash personality outside of it.

The story is also true of many other American (and non American) legends who never saw respect during their reign. Larry Holmes is another fine example.

Granted there are always going to be ****heads in every batch of opinions who try to discredit a fighter because of Nationality but they're the overwhelming minority.

Joe Calzaghe and Wladimir Klitschko seem to be the main targets of the hate around here that I see, when it comes to European fighters.

[Riptor]

Yeah but to be fair The Bringer All those other races, their fighters aren't constantly trashed like euro guys.

You name me one respected euro guy who americans will admit is better than most of their guys.

But they will admit it about Duran, Barrera etc

When did countries become races? Also, when have we ever admit that Korea, China or Japan had a better fighter? They are trashed too but they have less of a presence when it comes to counterattacks, or perhaps like everyone else (Except for the Euros) they don't care and they let their revenge be taken in the ring when it can be.

[ßringer]

Lennox Lewis has owned all of great HW, he gets tonnes of credit.

And no. Duran and Barrera are not better than most of our guys. Most Americans fans don't rate Duran at all.

WTF? Speak for yourself.

I rate Duran extremely highly and consider anybody who doesn't to have **** for brains.