Why are Americans so negative about European fighters?

[screwhead1]

to me...there is a major difference between mexican, american, and european boxers...america might be able to give you the best preparation...there is a wide range of tactics...mexican and european fighters stick to their known basics...i'm not normally concerned about an american fighter fighting in america only...it is biased i guess...but i think that there are so many different styles that come through...they are more than likely to be truly tested within these borders...but mexico and europe are a bit different...mexico is extremely aggressive with their fighters...if they don't box guys who are more slick and calculated...they won't tend to work on their defense...european fighters have a time adjusting...from the fights i've seen from their best...if you aren't flat out better...you will lose if your opponent adjusts and turns it up on you...call me what you want...but until i see a bit of diversity in the styles of these fighters in europe and mexico...i'll never submit to their greatness till i've seen them tested here...

[Dambala]

Because of Ottke, nah, seriously, I think the problem is that some europeans fighters, despite being talented and everything are relatively unknown to the american casual fan, and some american hardcore fans get to know about them too late, like when they're already called great in Europe and that could make you think they're overrated, plus the competition it's unknown as well.

[Riptor]

Mexico and many fighters from other latino countries have shown their greatness, do you remember fighters such as the great Roberto Duran, or Salvador Sanchez (And many others)? These fighters fought with and beat the best that america had, in their primes. So they are not just hype jobs like many Euros.

[zojo]

Americans are typically so negative about european fighters for a few reasons.

1. Euros - typically fight a very boring and robotic style. No kind of swagger, movement, rythym or anything. (not all of them are like this but traditionally it has been this way.

2. Watching past fights with European robots was often like watching paint dry. Have you ever seen an old western movie with fights between the cowboys? You hit me once then I hit you once, you hit me once then I hit you once, until someone drops. Taken right from the euro-fight playbook.

3. There are some Europeans who have been able to suceed and can fight (Somewhat) for example Joe calzaghe, however many are negative about him due to the fact that many of his wins were against americans who were well past their prime. (perhaps he would have still won but if he had fought Hopkins, Jones and others when they were young things may have been quite different. (This may not have been his fault though but inevitably the fights didnt happen in their primes.)

4. Often in Europe the refs seems to be watching something other than the fight. Sometimes fighters can go inside and hold, hit, pull out a wrench or whatever and it doesnt sit well here. (Often in America the judging is ****ty but the reffing is ok (most times)

5. Euro-fighters are often hyped up and everyone thinks they are destroyers that can destroy american fighters without even trying. (Fighting in europe against other robots is one thing, and when you walk through all of them thats great, but just because you can do that in Europe it is different when you fight in the states against guys who can move and now how to actually dodge a punch, and can punch out of turn!) when that Euro-fighter that has been so worshipped and doled on by reporters and everyone comes to the states and cannot even last a round against the top notch american fighters then it makes us here in the states feel that Euros are not good fighters. (Send us your best to get demolished in no time and you were saying he was soo good for what reason???)

Dont take this as me saying that Europeans have not produced good fighters just giving you the reasonings.

thats how we feel when you send fighter like jeff "mini tyson" lacy over here and then ends up getting beaten to a pulp.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

this is the easiest cop out argument europeans have when they cant get the perceived recognition they think their favorite fighters (who is probably their same race) deserve.

they pull out the americans are racists or xenophobic card.

Do you think it has anything to do with hatton not being that good & calzaghe fighting 39 & 43 year olds?

[Riptor]

thats how we feel when you send fighter like jeff "mini tyson" lacy over here and then ends up getting beaten to a pulp.

Joe Calzaghe did beat him into oblivion. Yet, Lacy was not great by far he was just average. I can understand how Euros would feel that way though. Lacy took a heck of a beating. American fans however were not singing songs and changing the names of cars, and even making statues of Lacy like Euros were with Hatton, who stepped to the U.S. only to be beaten severely by Mayweather and demolished by pacquiao. Many Americans felt Lacy was great but there were a ton of us who felt he was just average.

[nouseforaname]

i guess the 2 most valid points i have seen througout this thread are

1. Style, Euro style tends to be more technical, might be perceived as slower, while Americans are used to a more fast paced type of boxing.

2. Overhype, although this can apply to everyone, Euro fighters seem to be the ones more constantly exposed.

Maybe after round one of the Super 6 we can come back and discuss this.

[AKATheMack]

Why are Europeans so interested in what Americans think? I mean I read wayy more posts about Americans not liking Europeans from Europeans than Americans, explain that. I liked Calzaghe personally, but beating 2 legends who are past their best does not make him the greatest fighter ever, and all the bull**** about Calzaghe could beat a prime Roy because he beat him while he was older argument makes me want to talk ****.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Joe Calzaghe did beat him into oblivion. Yet, Lacy was not great by far he was just average. I can understand how Euros would feel that way though. Lacy took a heck of a beating. American fans however were not singing songs and changing the names of cars, and even making statues of Lacy like Euros were with Hatton, who stepped to the U.S. only to be beaten severely by Mayweather and demolished by pacquiao. Many Americans felt Lacy was great but there were a ton of us who felt he was just average.

The difference of course is that Hatton was an underdog for both those fights with boxing experts across the globe whereas Lacy was predicted by 95% of American boxing experts to destroy Calzaghe.

[Weebler I]

Why are Europeans so interested in what Americans think? I mean I read wayy more posts about Americans not liking Europeans from Europeans than Americans, explain that.

Because Europeans notice when they enter a thread about one of their fighters and it's full of fat yank as$hole losers taking shots.

The really sad thing about the US is they have no great white fighters and the one great black fighter they have talks like such a d1ck in public and has such a horrible backtracking style that they hate him. So we see lots of sad piggybacking on other nations fighters like Pacquiao, Cotto, JMM etc as if they're American. No pride, just a bunch of sellout bandwagoners.

And they'll back anyone, anyone (even other Euro fighters) against the true warrior Ricky Hatton and the ultra-skilled Joe Calzaghe, two of the sport of boxing's leading lights in recent years.