Bernard is a great but overrated (Lost all legacy fights)

[brently1979]

COSIGN BORING-HOP is severely overated and probably the worst fighter to watch if you trying to win over new fans of the sport

I agree, He's not the sort of fighter you want heading a PPV.

[hookoutofhell]

You didn;t read what i said.

How were DLH and TITO Blown up?

Winky you can argue for, and again with Pavlik.

DLH bout was at 156lbs. 2lbs above DLH's LMW division. WHich part of that do you not understand?

Tito was already champ at MW...

What you're saying is the exact same thing as saying Hagler fought a blown up Hearns, Leonard and Duran.

okay the current pacman vs cotto fight is a little bit like the DLH vs bernard fight.

DLH made a smart move and realised after his sturm performance that 160lbs was too much for him, 156 was a safe bet. but still the fact that he neogtotiated for 156 should tell you that he was not a genuine MW and he knew it. as for bernard once he touched down to 156 he was always going to rehydrate back to his normal fighting weight. the fact that DLH neogtiated for a weight of 156 shows you that he was not a genuine MW and hopkins knew it!!

as for tito already being champ at MW his only win was over joppy and again was out of his weight class.

i give hopkins credit for wins over johnson and tarver (even then there are question over weight) and dominating the division but bottomline he didn't win the belt against a great opponent, failed to defend it against the next in line and has had to call out smaller opponents consistently.

he is an extremely shrewd man though and has made the best career out of his limited physical tools. he does have dedication for training and a rich knowledge of the sport hes made the best career he possibly could have.

[hookoutofhell]

I agree, He's not the sort of fighter you want heading a PPV.

if you want to see a war then watch gatti, ward, vasquez, pavlik, clottey or SSM.

if you want to see master craftsman at work watch b-hop ormoney mayweather.

[brently1979]

if you want to see a war then watch gatti, ward, vasquez, pavlik, clottey or SSM.

if you want to see master craftsman at work watch b-hop ormoney mayweather.

Thanks I never knew that. I will keep that in mind.

[Abstraction]

okay the current pacman vs cotto fight is a little bit like the DLH vs bernard fight.

DLH made a smart move and realised after his sturm performance that 160lbs was too much for him, 156 was a safe bet. but still the fact that he neogtotiated for 156 should tell you that he was not a genuine MW and he knew it. as for bernard once he touched down to 156 he was always going to rehydrate back to his normal fighting weight. the fact that DLH neogtiated for a weight of 156 shows you that he was not a genuine MW and hopkins knew it!!

as for tito already being champ at MW his only win was over joppy and again was out of his weight class.

If i am correct. Hopkins did not rehydrate to any weight. The bout took place at 156 in the ring too.

You also have not addressed the fact that Hagler faced Hearns, Leonard and Duran.

Were they all blown up guys aswell then?

Or you not going respond to that?

[boojee]

He beat Calzaghe and Taylor x2 IMO without a doubt.

wtf? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

[boojee]

Roy Jones Jr
Jermain Taylor 2 Times
Joe Calzaghe

These where the big ones for Bernard and he failed. Now i won't **** on him for losing to the versions of the fighters when he fought them. A lot of fighters would have lost to those 3 fighters at the time when he faced them.

Still Hopkins = 0-4 in his legacy fights.

i totally agree with this. Hopkins is severely overrated.

[Jim Jeffries]

Roy Jones Jr
Jermain Taylor 2 Times
Joe Calzaghe

These where the big ones for Bernard and he failed. Now i won't **** on him for losing to the versions of the fighters when he fought them. A lot of fighters would have lost to those 3 fighters at the time when he faced them.

Still Hopkins = 0-4 in his legacy fights.

Three of those fights he was in his 40's and the other he was green against a first ballot HOFer that was robbed of a gold medal (and had far more total boxing experience at the time.) / thread.

[Don Johnson]

4 out of 5 being blown up dudes. Way to go Hopkins!!

double standard, hopkins is a blown up middleweight, those 4 guys were all established at 160 by the time they fought b-hop.

[boxasmash]

one of the most overrated fighters today without a doubt.