Originally posted by TheGR8TESTOAT
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Bernard is a great but overrated (Lost all legacy fights)
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Originally posted by minion View PostYou didn;t read what i said.
How were DLH and TITO Blown up?
Winky you can argue for, and again with Pavlik.
DLH bout was at 156lbs. 2lbs above DLH's LMW division. WHich part of that do you not understand?
Tito was already champ at MW...
What you're saying is the exact same thing as saying Hagler fought a blown up Hearns, Leonard and Duran.
DLH made a smart move and realised after his sturm performance that 160lbs was too much for him, 156 was a safe bet. but still the fact that he neogtotiated for 156 should tell you that he was not a genuine MW and he knew it. as for bernard once he touched down to 156 he was always going to rehydrate back to his normal fighting weight. the fact that DLH neogtiated for a weight of 156 shows you that he was not a genuine MW and hopkins knew it!!
as for tito already being champ at MW his only win was over joppy and again was out of his weight class.
i give hopkins credit for wins over johnson and tarver (even then there are question over weight) and dominating the division but bottomline he didn't win the belt against a great opponent, failed to defend it against the next in line and has had to call out smaller opponents consistently.
he is an extremely shrewd man though and has made the best career out of his limited physical tools. he does have dedication for training and a rich knowledge of the sport hes made the best career he possibly could have.
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Originally posted by hookoutofhell View Postokay the current pacman vs cotto fight is a little bit like the DLH vs bernard fight.
DLH made a smart move and realised after his sturm performance that 160lbs was too much for him, 156 was a safe bet. but still the fact that he neogtotiated for 156 should tell you that he was not a genuine MW and he knew it. as for bernard once he touched down to 156 he was always going to rehydrate back to his normal fighting weight. the fact that DLH neogtiated for a weight of 156 shows you that he was not a genuine MW and hopkins knew it!!
as for tito already being champ at MW his only win was over joppy and again was out of his weight class.
You also have not addressed the fact that Hagler faced Hearns, Leonard and Duran.
Were they all blown up guys aswell then?
Or you not going respond to that?
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Originally posted by Tyson2k7 View PostRoy Jones Jr
Jermain Taylor 2 Times
Joe Calzaghe
These where the big ones for Bernard and he failed. Now i won't **** on him for losing to the versions of the fighters when he fought them. A lot of fighters would have lost to those 3 fighters at the time when he faced them.
Still Hopkins = 0-4 in his legacy fights.
i totally agree with this. Hopkins is severely overrated.
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Originally posted by Tyson2k7 View PostRoy Jones Jr
Jermain Taylor 2 Times
Joe Calzaghe
These where the big ones for Bernard and he failed. Now i won't **** on him for losing to the versions of the fighters when he fought them. A lot of fighters would have lost to those 3 fighters at the time when he faced them.
Still Hopkins = 0-4 in his legacy fights.
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