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  • #81
    Bhop is the only one that have unified all 4 major belts in his division.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by el_tino View Post
      Bhop is the only one that have unified all 4 major belts in his division.
      plus the ring and some other belt.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by boxasmash View Post
        he didnt suck, no one has said that so you're missing the point.

        he is however overrated.
        how is he overrated you fucktard?

        Who has a better legacy, who has done more out of todays fighters? Anthony Mundine? lol. You make the case for lets see, roy, floyd, pacquiao. Who else???

        lol, so how can someone be overrated when there are MAYBE, one, two or three guys total that have accomplished more than bhop??

        Did trinidad accomplish more? No.
        Did oscar accomplish more? No.
        Did morales accomplish more? No.
        Did Arturo Gatti accomplish more? No.
        Did the klitschko's accomplish more? No.
        Did Jermain Taylor accomplish more? No.
        Did winky wright accomplish more? No.
        Did James Toney accomplish more? No.
        Did Chris byrd accomplish more? No.
        Did joe calzaghe accomplish more? No.
        Did tarver accomplish more? No.
        Did kelly pavlik accomplish more? No.
        Did diego corrales accomplish more? No.
        Did JMM accomplish more? No.
        Did Vazquez accomplish more? No.
        Did rafael marquez accomplish more? No.
        Did nate campbell accomplish more? No.
        Did shane mosley accomplish more? No.
        Did miguel cotto accomplish more? No.
        Did margarito accomplish more? No.
        Did paul williams accomplish more? No.
        etc
        etc
        etc
        etc


        That's just plain ****** and it borders on haterism.

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        • #84
          Roys career is his 20s and early 30's

          Bernards career is his 30's to early 40's

          Bernard has more "names" on his resume... but most of them had to move up to fight him

          Roy has less names on his resume... but he moved up to beat all of them

          Bernard has 20 title defenses

          Roy was the first MW champion to goto HW in 106 years, and he continued it even further by regaining the LHW championship, immediately after...




          Their careers are incredibly close.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
            Roys career is his 20s and early 30's

            Bernards career is his 30's to early 40's

            Bernard has more "names" on his resume... but most of them had to move up to fight him

            Roy has less names on his resume... but he moved up to beat all of them

            Bernard has 20 title defenses

            Roy was the first MW champion to goto HW in 106 years, and he continued it even further by regaining the LHW championship, immediately after...




            Their careers are incredibly close.
            The Truth

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            • #86
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
              Roys career is his 20s and early 30's

              Bernards career is his 30's to early 40's

              Bernard has more "names" on his resume... but most of them had to move up to fight him

              Roy has less names on his resume... but he moved up to beat all of them

              Bernard has 20 title defenses

              Roy was the first MW champion to goto HW in 106 years, and he continued it even further by regaining the LHW championship, immediately after...




              Their careers are incredibly close.
              exactly, they will forever be linked and in the all time ratings of top 100, roy and bhop should always be a spot or two apart, imo.

              It's really what you like more - hops longevity or jones' absolute domination when he was King. Both are great careers and resumes in their own unique ways.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                Roys career is his 20s and early 30's

                Bernards career is his 30's to early 40's

                Bernard has more "names" on his resume... but most of them had to move up to fight him

                Roy has less names on his resume... but he moved up to beat all of them

                Bernard has 20 title defenses

                Roy was the first MW champion to goto HW in 106 years, and he continued it even further by regaining the LHW championship, immediately after...




                Their careers are incredibly close.
                And Roy gets the nod for absolutely embarrassing everyone, and beating Hopkins.

                In all seriousness, that debate is very close.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                  how is he overrated you fucktard?

                  Who has a better legacy, who has done more out of todays fighters? Anthony Mundine? lol. You make the case for lets see, roy, floyd, pacquiao. Who else???

                  lol, so how can someone be overrated when there are MAYBE, one, two or three guys total that have accomplished more than bhop??

                  Did trinidad accomplish more? No.
                  Did oscar accomplish more? No.
                  Did morales accomplish more? No.
                  Did Arturo Gatti accomplish more? No.
                  Did the klitschko's accomplish more? No.
                  Did Jermain Taylor accomplish more? No.
                  Did winky wright accomplish more? No.
                  Did James Toney accomplish more? No.
                  Did Chris byrd accomplish more? No.
                  Did joe calzaghe accomplish more? No.
                  Did tarver accomplish more? No.
                  Did kelly pavlik accomplish more? No.
                  Did diego corrales accomplish more? No.
                  Did JMM accomplish more? No.
                  Did Vazquez accomplish more? No.
                  Did rafael marquez accomplish more? No.
                  Did nate campbell accomplish more? No.
                  Did shane mosley accomplish more? No.
                  Did miguel cotto accomplish more? No.
                  Did margarito accomplish more? No.
                  Did paul williams accomplish more? No.
                  etc
                  etc
                  etc
                  etc


                  That's just plain ****** and it borders on haterism.
                  he's overrated when compared to other great fighters.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by el_tino View Post
                    Bhop is the only one that have unified all 4 major belts in his division.

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                    • #90
                      Pavlik and Tarver where great wins. Hopkins is a great fighter.

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