Bernard is a great but overrated (Lost all legacy fights)

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When you consider the fact that there is no way in hell that it could have been competitive if Hopkins had fought Tito at 147, then you would think it matters. Weight is a big issue.

Well Bernard couldn't make 147 if he wanted to...at least Tito had wins at 154 before going to 160

[K-Nan]

Well Bernard couldn't make 147 if he wanted to...at least Tito had wins at 154 before going to 160

But you get what I'm saying? Being out of your element is being out of your element. No matter how you put it. I'm just trying to be fair to Tito in the debate as to how significant his loss to B-Hop was... Because I'm not discrediting it completely, just saying that it's very, very overrated as a B-Hop win.

[K-Nan]

Well at least Bernard didn't get knocked down...and win on DQ

Bro come on now, lets be mature. Haha

You can't just disregard an entire fight because of it's ending. Roy won comfortably against B-Hop. Against Griffin, he had some rounds where he struggled twice as hard as he ever did with Hopkins. Griffin was very awkward.

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Bro come on now, lets be mature. Haha

You can't just disregard an entire fight because of it's ending. Roy won comfortably against B-Hop. Against Griffin, he had some rounds where he struggled twice as hard as he ever did with Hopkins. Griffin was very awkward.

True...but we won't know how the rest of the fight would have been...maybe Roy wud have taken control...I get what you saying though...but very few could compete with Roy in his prime

Hey Roy knocked Griffin's head into orbit in the rematch

[D-MiZe]

Guys, let just settle it at this;

Hatton beats Hopkins at 160 - 175 lbs.

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Bro come on now, lets be mature. Haha

You can't just disregard an entire fight because of it's ending. Roy won comfortably against B-Hop. Against Griffin, he had some rounds where he struggled twice as hard as he ever did with Hopkins. Griffin was very awkward.

RJ was the only fighter that I think beat Hopkins, not counting Mitchell. However I had it 8-4 or 7-5 Hopkisn was coming on strong late, also neither were really in their prime, Roy was much closer to it though, since he schooled Toney a little later.

Also Roy looked horrible int hat fight.

[K-Nan]

True...but we won't know how the rest of the fight would have been...maybe Roy wud have taken control...I get what you saying though...but very few could compete with Roy in his prime

Hey Roy knocked Griffin's head into orbit in the rematch

Yeah he was definitely taking control by the time of the DQ, but up until about round 6 he hadn't completely mapped Griffin out. He was feinting and posing a lot, not being used to fighting such a good, awkward counter puncher.

[K-Nan]

RJ was the only fighter that I think beat Hopkins, not counting Mitchell. However I had it 8-4 or 7-5 Hopkisn was coming on strong late, also neither were really in their prime, Roy was much closer to it though, since he schooled Toney a little later.

Idk why people discredit Roy for the Toney win.

He was arguably the 2nd best fighter in the world, behind Whittaker. Just 4 months earlier he had taken out Tim Littles with more ease than anybody would have guessed. I mean, maybe weight was an issue- but DAMN. A man deserves more credit that that.

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Idk why people discredit Roy for the Toney win.

He was arguably the 2nd best fighter in the world, behind Whittaker. Just 4 months earlier he had taken out Tim Littles with more ease than anybody would have guessed. I mean, maybe weight was an issue- but DAMN. A man deserves more credit that that.

People claim Toney was weight drained but I don't buy that ****...

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People claim Toney was weight drained but I don't buy that ****...

Even if he was.

With his activity level, there is no way that he was struggling THAT BAD to make weight. Dude was the most active fighter behind Chavez, back then. He basically fought monthly.