Judge by the Same Standards Who is the BETTER fighter Mayweather or Pacquiao??

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  • Horus
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    #171
    Originally posted by BULAHAW
    You still don't get it Horus, you can dissect both their careers & obviously Floyd has achieved more but the fact that Pacquiao achieved this level in spite of coming from a poor family is really what makes Pac favorable

    Coming from a family of boxers, floyd is expected to have bright career. How about Pac? Pac puts his boxing gloves in order to feed his family. While Floyd's winning the national gloves, state gloves champs etc. Pac is struggling to feed his family with only money he earned in boxing

    But when you both summed up their career til now, Pac still edges Floyd in most lineal titles & most titles in division. Both have two Ring Fighter of the Year awards

    This is what makes Pac special over any of our boxers today, he STRUGGLED in life in order to reach where he's standing now

    And don't bring up the race of Floyd being black, hell when was the last time a FILIPINO became a pound for pound king?
    LIKE i SAID before:

    Floyd is apart of a Boxing Lineage And RACE where he can never become a “hero.” Like Pacquiao.
    Floyd is following a tradition of great fighters like Ali, Hearns, SRL, Jones, Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Herny Armstrong, Marvin Hagler, Pernell Whitaker etc..

    With coming behind Those kind of fighters Floyd does not have the luxary of being his people pride because other fighters before him already holds that title..

    Tell me something if there wasnt a Sugar Ray Robinson., Louis, Henry Armstrong, Marvin Hagler, Pernell Whitaker, Ali, and other great black fighters.

    And Floyd was truly the first great fighter of his race. You do not think he would have the hopes of 100,000,000 black people around the world?
    Be honest with yourself.

    Floyd is a victim of Past Fighters success.
    When people want to argue floyd’s greatness who do they compared him with?

    They compare him with His predecessors
    SRR,SRL, ALI, HEARNS, and so on…

    Imagine if Pacquiao Race produce those kinds of fighters that Floyd had to follow behind.

    Do you still think Pacquiao would still be treasured as he is now… or would he just be another great fighter from a race... that has always produce great fighters like Floyd is currently in.

    Pacquiao is never judge and compared to fighters like Ali, Hearns, SRL, Jones, Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Henry Armstrong, Marvin Hagler, Pernell Whitaker etc when discussing his personal greatness...

    Pacquiao gets judge on his own merit because he is the first of his race
    to do what he has done. and That right there is the MAJORITY of the reason why people THIS HIS story is so appealing.

    Eminem once said that if he was black he wouldnt have sold half the records
    he has sold....

    Why do you think he said that?
    He said it, because if he was black he would have been just another rapper
    among a crowd of already great rappers.


    Now let's add that logic and reasoning to Pacquiao.
    Imagine if Pacquiao came from the same Boxing Lineage as Floyd Mayweather..do you think Manny would have the status he has today.


    I will give you my answer:
    NO.

    Manny Pacquiao is all the Pinnoy have. and that is to his advantage.
    The same can not be said of Floyd Mayweather because he comes from a race that produces some many greats that he is just one of the many great champions that are black. and that is to his determent.


    If you look carefully at the ATG list how many Pinnoy's are on that list?


    Now If you look again how many Blacks are on that list?



    Now ask yourself. Who would have a tougher time standing out on that list
    Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather.

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    • them_apples
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      #172
      Originally posted by Horus
      Are saying Barrera was in his Prime when he fought Pacquiao?
      wow, that is the first time i heard that..

      Once again we have to judge fighters on their entire careers not portions when you want to say they are Alll time greater than another fighter...

      I will say this again.

      You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
      Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

      You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

      Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

      .I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
      By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

      While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

      Just think about that..!


      I can go on for days, but you get the point...

      Manny Pacquiao is great at what he does.
      which is throw alot of punches...and has great great foot work. tremendous lateral movement... And he showed the greatest amount of improvement in a fighter in a period of 5 years that i have ever seen.

      But, he is not a better fighter than Mayweather.
      Barrera was in his prime you dumbass

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      • MaD RoBoT
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        #173
        You're comparing them thru their race while i compare them thru their upbringing

        Of course Floyd will be compared to them former champs, its up to Floyd to make his own LEGACY against this guys: SRL, Hearns, Hagler, SRR they all fought the best in their era not cherry pick them

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        • Horus
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          #174
          Originally posted by them_apples
          Barrera was in his prime you dumbass
          Right.....

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          • F l i c k e r
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            #175
            Pacquiao is better. Cause his **** is bigger. Thats why.

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            • Horus
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              #176
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r
              Pacquiao is better. Cause his **** is bigger. Thats why.
              how would you know this?

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              • aether
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                #177
                pac is a greater fighter... don't know why horus can't accept that.

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                • MaD RoBoT
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Horus
                  Right.....

                  How was Barrera not in his prime when he fought Pacquiao?

                  After Pac loss, Barrera swept thru opponents including Morales to win his SFW title

                  His next loss was against Marquez

                  Is that an old shot Barrera?

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by BULAHAW
                    You still don't get it Horus, you can dissect both their careers & obviously Floyd has achieved more but the fact that Pacquiao achieved this level in spite of coming from a poor family is really what makes Pac favorable

                    Coming from a family of boxers, floyd is expected to have bright career. How about Pac? Pac puts his boxing gloves in order to feed his family. While Floyd's winning the national gloves, state gloves champs etc. Pac is struggling to feed his family with only money he earned in boxing

                    But when you both summed up their career til now, Pac still edges Floyd in most lineal titles & most titles in division. Both have two Ring Fighter of the Year awards

                    This is what makes Pac special over any of our boxers today, he STRUGGLED in life in order to reach where he's standing now

                    And don't bring up the race of Floyd being black, hell when was the last time a FILIPINO became a pound for pound king?
                    floyd achieved more than pacquiao??

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                    • F l i c k e r
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      how would you know this?
                      He is a harder puncher thats why. Everyone who is anyone knows that big punchers have the biggest penis.
                      Last edited by F l i c k e r; 07-06-2009, 11:24 PM.

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