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i disagree. even if pacquiao was raised the same way as floyd and both achieved what they achieved, pac would be much higher in the atg list than floyd.
coming from that background is a plus, but not the ultimate factor why i think pac>floyd.
its been done before in other threads regarding the level of opposition. floyd has nothing on pac.
pac has won more linear titles, fought in more weight class. was actually willing to face people who could beat him. is more exciting, and casual fans are more into his style
i really don't think there's an argument here.
PACQUIAO>FLOYD
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Mayweather hits and rarely gets hit flush.
He can easily win by UD and in most cases, the KO usually comes.
And his record is amazing up to a point except he needs to fight Genuine Welterweights, I agree Pacman is P4P#1 to fill the void but out of everyone else he deserves it.Comment
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you then need to watch more boxing.
greatness is based on who you beat, now how good you look beating people.
pacquiao has better wins than mayweather. beat better quality opponents than floyd.
ergo, pacquiao is greater.
im actually surprised people voted for mayweather. i thought this is a widely known factComment
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not to mention his impact on his country. he is able to transcend the sport. i guess floyd did in sense, but he did it with stuff that has jack-**** to do with boxing(dancing with the stars, wwe?).
pac beating de la hoya and hatton is what made him known in the mainstream media. not some gay dancing or ******ed wrestling.
pacquiao is greater than floyd.Comment
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pacquiao being non-american is actually a disadvantage when it comes to his atg status. pac has had a pretty impressive resume even before he beat barrera. people just started noticing him after he beat barrera
he was lucky that he was the one chosen as a tune up fight then his career took off.
pacquiao could lose all his bouts and he will still be considered greater than floyd.
honestly, i can't take anyone who claim floyd>pacquiao seriously.Comment
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I havent been watching boxing long enough?
but you make up facts, by saying Pacquiao was named fighter of the decade...when he never was...
I havent been watching boxing long enough but you dont know nothing about the amateur system since you want to compare the amateur fight game to the pro fight game.
Pacquiao resume doesnt **** on floyd..because if it did Pacquiao wouldnt have recently just got on the Pound for Pound list ojust in 2004..when he has been a pro just 1995..
Floyd was Ranked on Ring Magazine's pound-for-pound list for TEN consecutive years. 10 years.
Pacquiao was has only been on there half of that time.
Floyd has spent Three Years Atop of that List: 2005,2006,2007, End Jun/2008 (retire)
1. 2005: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_2005
2. 2006: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_2006
3. 2007: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_2007
Pacquiao has only spent 1 year ontop of that list..
2008:http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_2008
You keep talking about the story of Pacquiao...and him supposedly about to recieve his 3 foy award and making history.
but If Floyd wins FOY he will have his 3rd foy award too...
be honest with yourself
Tell me something if there wasnt a Sugar Ray Robinson., Louis, Henry Armstrong, Marvin Hagler, Pernell Whitaker, Ali, and other great black fighters.
And Floyd was truly the first great fighter of his race. You do not think he would have the hopes of 100,000,000 black people around the world?
Be honest with yourself.
How amazing would Floyd story be?
Pacquiao Story is amazing being he is not following no great boxing tradition.
like I said before,
Floyd is a victim of Past Fighters success.
When people want to argue floyd’s greatness who do they compared him with?
They compare him with His predecessors
SRR,SRL, ALI, HEARNS, and so on…
Imagine if Pacquiao Race produce those kinds of fighters that Floyd had to follow behind.
Do you still think Pacquiao would still be treasured as he is now… or would he just be another great fighter from a race... that has always produce great fighters like Floyd is currently in.
Pacquiao is never judge and compared to fighters like Ali, Hearns, SRL, Jones, Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Henry Armstrong, Marvin Hagler, Pernell Whitaker etc when discussing his personal greatness...
Pacquiao gets judge on his own merit because he is the first of his race
to do what he has done. and That right there is the MAJORITY of the reason why people THIS HIS story is so appealing.
Eminem once said that if he was black he wouldnt have sold half the records
he has sold....
Why do you think he said that?
He said it, because if he was black he would have been just another rapper
among a crowd of already great rappers.
Now let's add that logic and reasoning to Pacquiao.
Imagine if Pacquiao came from the same Boxing Lineage as Floyd Mayweather..do you think Manny would have the status he has today.
I will give you my answer:
NO.
Manny Pacquiao is all the Pinnoy have. and that is to his advantage.
The same can not be said of Floyd Mayweather because he comes from a race that produces some many greats that he is just one of the many great champions that are black. and that is to his determent.
If you look carefully at the ATG list how many Pinnoy's are on that list?
Now If you look again how many Blacks are on that list?
Now ask yourself. Who would have a tougher time standing out on that list
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