Judge by the Same Standards Who is the BETTER fighter Mayweather or Pacquiao??

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  • Horus
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    #271
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Pretty good and I agree. But, what about...

    Who do you think has a better chance in beating Gamboa between Elio Rojas and Cristobal Cruz? And, why?

    Who do you think would be the biggest star between Omar Henry, Charles Hatley, Shawn Porter, and Demetrius Andrade?

    Who wins Arreola-Haye? And, how?

    And, how did you score the Perez-Agbeko fight?
    Gamboa wouldnt lose to neither cruz or Rojas, because I personally believe Gamboa raw talent is so much greater than cruz and rojas natural skill that Gamboa would knock both of them out...

    I am actually rooting for Gamboa...
    one of my two fighter small fighters are Gamboa and Juan Diaz...

    and I hope Demetrius Andrade becomes the biggest star out of all of them...


    Who wins Arreola-Haye? And, how?.

    Haye and Arreola is a toss up fight and honestly I would love to see it.
    but if I had to choose, I would pick Arreola.

    Reason: Better Chin.

    I didnt watch the the Perez-Agbeko fight.

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    • Webber676
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      #272
      Originally posted by bdevils
      I'm a fan of Pac and not bashing him in anyway, but he is so overhyped when it comes to his skill and resume especially on this site it's ridiculous. Just looking at some of his most notable wins...

      Morales, was faded fighter by the time Pac beat him after losing their 1st fight. Raheem gave Morales a boxing lesson before the Pac fight.

      Marquez, well we all know how that went down. Alot if not the majority think Marquez deserved the nod in 1 if not both fights. Marquez outboxed Pac easy.

      DLH, Looked like a strung out crackhead in their fight who had not fought @ that weight in years.

      I think Floyd edges him out as atg and would most definately pick Floyd over Pac if the fight ever happens
      Pac haters are known by his words and unquestionably you are one. The problem my dear hater is that we shall not look at the win only as a win if not the fashion in how he got those wins. You get the point now my friend? why others didnt do it in the same fashion of the Pacman? simply because they are not in the same league as him.

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      • jrosales13
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        #273
        Originally posted by Horus
        Gamboa wouldnt lose to neither cruz or Rojas, because I personally believe Gamboa raw talent is so much greater than cruz and rojas natural skill that Gamboa would knock both of them out...

        I am actually rooting for Gamboa...
        one of my two fighter small fighters are Gamboa and Juan Diaz...
        Gamboa IMO is a lot like Berto. Explosive but with a leaky defense. I am not sure about Gamboa. I think a top fighter will beat him. But, I agree it will not be Cruz or Rojas. But, they will give him some trouble Gamboa will not KO them.

        Originally posted by Horus
        and I hope Demetrius Andrade becomes the biggest star out of all of them...
        Why are you hoping for Andrade? I think Hatley is going to be something special.

        Originally posted by Horus
        Haye and Arreola is a toss up fight and honestly I would love to see it.
        but if I had to choose, I would pick Arreola.

        Reason: Better Chin.

        I agree about Haye-Arreola.

        Originally posted by Horus
        I didnt watch the the Perez-Agbeko fight.
        You have to watch Agbeko-Perez. FOTY candidate...
        Last edited by jrosales13; 11-02-2009, 08:57 PM.

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        • them_apples
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          #274
          Pacquiao was stopped by a low blow when he was 21, knocked out when he was 18.

          Was Floyd even fighting as a pro then.


          all these points don't mean SWEET *** ALL because Pacquiao has improved greatly.

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          • bdevils
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            #275
            Originally posted by Webber676
            Pac haters are known by his words and unquestionably you are one. The problem my dear hater is that we shall not look at the win only as a win if not the fashion in how he got those wins. You get the point now my friend? why others didnt do it in the same fashion of the Pacman? simply because they are not in the same league as him.
            First off your not my friend. Secondly I'm a Fan of Pac! Third how am I hating? What did I say that wasn't true?

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            • versatech
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              #276
              PBF = Magic Johnson = skills
              PAC = Michael Jordan = excitement

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              • hugh grant
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                #277
                Of course Pac is the better fighter, and PBF is the better boxer. PBF was consistent as a boxer from an early age, because he was schooled and trained right from the beggining.
                Now Pac is being trained by the right man he is showing the consistency as well, which he didnt show earlier in his career.
                Pac beat Hatton in 2 rounds and DLH in 8, which shows he should be classed as the better fighter. PBF is better defensively but being better defensively dont make you a better fighter. It makes you a better self preservationist.

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                • madsweeney
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                  #278
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Of course Pac is the better fighter, and PBF is the better boxer. PBF was consistent as a boxer from an early age, because he was schooled and trained right from the beggining.
                  Now Pac is being trained by the right man he is showing the consistency as well, which he didnt show earlier in his career.
                  Pac beat Hatton in 2 rounds and DLH in 8, which shows he should be classed as the better fighter. PBF is better defensively but being better defensively dont make you a better fighter. It makes you a better self preservationist.
                  /golfclap

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                  • bdevils
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                    #279
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Of course Pac is the better fighter, and PBF is the better boxer. PBF was consistent as a boxer from an early age, because he was schooled and trained right from the beggining.
                    Now Pac is being trained by the right man he is showing the consistency as well, which he didnt show earlier in his career.
                    Pac beat Hatton in 2 rounds and DLH in 8, which shows he should be classed as the better fighter. PBF is better defensively but being better defensively dont make you a better fighter. It makes you a better self preservationist.
                    You can't really judge by that. Floyd fought Oscar at 154 with Oscar calling all the shots. Oscar looked as skinny as the Olson twins when he fought Pac. Who knows how much was taken out of Hatton after suffering KO lost to Floyd first. I will say Pac's Ko of Hatton looked more impressive but some fighters aren't the same after their 1st Ko loss

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #280
                      You could be right about DLH. But when comparing like for like and those 2 opponents, DLH and Hatton are all we have to go by, then Pac did better. But of course PBF just beat JMM quite well, even if it was by outpointing the man who stepped up in weight so that should be in PBFs favour.

                      But Pac is knocking people out, and is the offensive guy out of the two, and PBF is the defense merchant. So Pac should be called the better fighter. Of course PBF can rectify all peoples opinion by knocking Pac out when they meet.

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